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Date: 11/05/22

Pace of Play: 4h35m @ 7:30am (4th out) / 4h10m @ 1:40pm (chasing daylight)

Cost: $80/$40(replay)


Service and Amenities:
Clubhouse was closed along with the restaurant and proshop. Check in is done around the building on the backside at the cart barn window. Staff was friendly and welcoming. Starter was friendly enough but did not offer any guidance about the course. He was there to take receipts and then disappear after getting the waivers.

Small snack window on the right side of the clubhouse (when looking from parking lot) that had standard fare: hotdogs, chips, beers, etc. Fair prices for a course.

Bathrooms and locker rooms non-existent outside of the comfort stations that were in need of some TLC.

Range was great with decent amount of targets and very nice grass to hit off of. Their range grass was very reflective of fairway grass. Range Balls were definitely below average with a mix of well worn range balls and an assortment of balls that seemed to be lost from holes to the range.

No chipping green but there was a putting green on the way up to the first tee. We did not use it before our round but definitely should have.

Greens:
The greens were very interesting. We didn't think they were going to be quick by their looks but they definitely were. Probably rolling around 11-12 and rolled very true. Having never played here before I had a hard time reading the greens for whatever reason and could not get a feel for the speed. That isn't on the course, it is on me! I will say that I have not played greens this receptive in some time; caveat that with them being extremely soft. I was able to back up a 4iron and my buddy had a 3wood spin back on 18. It was fun to zip wedges back past the pins though. Speaking of pins, the locations were tricky and seemed to always be on edges of slopes.

Fairways:
The fairways were some of the best I have played in recent memory. They reminded me of torrey pines leading up to the tournament every year. They were very lush but firm. You could take nice clean divots and replace them which is always a good feeling. Drives got a decent amount of roll.

Bunkers:
Green side: decent with varying degrees of depth but thin in spots. Outside of the green side waste bunker on 9, they seemed to have nice sand and you were able to get out of with high, soft shots.
Fairway: the one I was in had small, medium, and large rocks. No rake so I wasn't sure if it was supposed to be groomed or not. In either case, got out without issues but there was a bit more sand in there than expected.

Tee Boxes:
No complaints here. Nothing special, definitely well played, but flat and had good grass to hit from on the par 3s.

Rough:
Two different types that we saw out here. First was the very thin hairy rough that would gobble up balls if they settled down but not hard to hit from if you found it. Second was thick wet rough that was very penal. Overall, rough was up 2-3 inches on average with some areas that were more and less. Group had a few lost balls where it ran through fairways and was never found again.

Overall:
Course was great! I would love to play here again but it is such a trek up from San Diego. Fun layout with challenging greens and tee shots. Course played very different from the two tee boxes we chose for each round. Gets a bit windy in the afternoons which adds to the fun. This course will definitely be on my list, especially when I am planning desert trips as it could be an easy stoping point to break up the drive right off the freeway.
9 Likes.
POP: 4:30
Weather: High 80s, low 90s, Hot and Sunny.
Time: 6:40am
Date: 7/27/19

Service and Amenities:
Staff was friendly and welcoming. The bathrooms/locker rooms were pretty gross though; no detail needed here.

Range:
Did not use the range but it appeared to be mats on this morning. There was a small practice green where I rolled a few putts but it was hard to get a feel since it was covered in the morning's trimmings.

Greens:
The greens were all over the place. Some quick, some slow and most really slow. One of the greens was so bad it was un-puttable (picture included). The only consistency of the greens was that they were some of the softest I have ever played; we had about 4 embedded balls on the green. Overall the greens rolled decently true but because they were so soft, if anyone ahead of us happened to walk in your intended line there were very deep impressions. We joked it was easier to play on punched greens but they had to keep them wet due to how much heat we have been getting in socal these past few weeks.

Fairways:
The fairways were very firm and even getting steep on wedges it was hard to take a decent divot. It felt like clubs were bouncing off the ground.
Some collection areas were completely soaked with standing water and were soggy.

Bunkers:
Poor bunkers...They were decently groomed but very thin. They looked like they would play well but you couldn't do anything with an open face as it would just bounce. It almost felt backwards as the fairway bunkers were noticeably softer than the greenside ones.

Tee Boxes:
Pretty bare but fairly even. Some of the tee boxes had decent coverage but you were forced to tee off on a less than ideal line.

Rough:
The depth of the rough off the fairways was probably 1 inch or so. Some of the greenside rough was 2-3" and very penal.

Overall:
Course was a pretty fun layout but 100% not worth the money for the condition it was in. Definitely a short course as I used irons off of most tees with a driver only on 2 holes due to length constraints. Definitely a challenging course and a fun for working on irons late in an afternoon, but definitely not a weekend course. I would have been disappointed with this place if I paid $50 to play it, but at the rate of $95 on a weekend our foursome was tempted to go complain about how poor the conditions were. If you have to pay more than $50 to play here, totally avoid it.
7 Likes.
POP: 4:30
Weather: Low to Mid 70s, Sunny.
Time: 7:10am
Date: 6/29/19

Service and Amenities:
Staff was friendly and informative. Starter was very helpful with tips as it was our first time playing the course.

Range:
Grass range with moderately priced range balls. Level stalls with decent coverage, not too sandy. Good amount of targets with marked distances.

Greens:
Much slower than they looked but they looked fast. Overall the greens rolled pretty true and at the speed they played you could be super aggressive with putts. Fairly firm but you could get some action on the ball with wedges. Greens changed for us on the back 9 since we were following a crew of guys watering the greens so it got a bit slower and softer.

Fairways:
The fairways were very firm and even getting steep on wedges it was hard to take a decent divot. It felt like clubs were bouncing off the ground. Kind of pissed off with one fairway where my pitching wedge found a rock just below the grass and dinged up the leading edge. This course shows long yardages on the card but there are lots of risk/reward tee shots where you can take on more hazard for shorter irons into the green.
Some collection areas were completely soaked with standing water...very odd!

Bunkers:
Average bunkers, on par with most stuff I see in south orange county. They were decently groomed but neither overly fluffy or thin.

Tee Boxes:
Flat with good grass coverage. Some areas were a bit torn up on the par 3s but overall decent. Some of the boxes were so firm you had to try and insert a tee-peg a few times before you could find a spot that accepted it.

Rough:
About 1.5-2" long. Depending on how it was sitting, the rough was deep/thick enough to produce dead shots or snap a club face closed.

Overall:
Great course and a fun layout. Definitely a great course to try but make sure to keep an eye out for deals! For the cost, I think this is one of the best value tracks in South OC. I really enjoyed it as did all my playing partners. The only downside was the slow pace of play for a morning tee time, but I guess that is to be expected on weekends.
8 Likes.
POP: 4:30
Weather: Overcast/Mid 60's
Time: 8:15am
Date: 6/23/19

Service and Amenities:
Oak creek has amazing personnel working for them. Everyone is very accommodating and helpful. Their cart gps system is the best I have ever seen; akin to the touch screen on a Tesla since it is huge and in the middle of the cart. The driving range here has been grass every time I have played the course but it is super expensive! Pro-tip: make sure to let them know you are playing that day and you get the "member" price for range balls.

Greens:
Rolled super true but slower than I would have hoped. Their practice green near the starter was at a totally different speed than the front 9 greens.

Fairways:
The fairways were firm but soft enough to get really nice crisp iron shots with nice shallow divots. Nothing too tricky on any of the tee shots into the fairways, however there are a few speed slots that exist (#10 up the right) that I am still trying to figure out. Great coverage on the fairways with no real divot issues.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were definitely penal today. The fairway bunkers were wet on the front 9 and fluffy on the back 9 (temperate swing from 65 at tee off to about 85 by hole 10). A lot of the green-side bunkers were labelled as ground-under-repair and roped off so I do not have any information on those other than they looked to be in excellent shape so I am not sure what their intention was with the GUR.

Tee Boxes:
Flat with good grass coverage. Some areas were a bit torn up on the par 3s but that is to be expected when their par3s are long or have a lot of trouble so people hit multiple shots (as we witnessed by watching the group in front of us hit almost every tee shot on each hole.)

Rough:
About 1.5-2" long. Depending on how it was sitting, the rough was deep/thick enough to produce dead shots or snap a club face closed.

Overall:
Great course and a fun layout. Definitely a great course to try but make sure to keep an eye out for deals!
12 Likes.
POP: 3:25
Weather: Overcast/Mid 60's
Time: 6:10am
Date: 6/22/19

Service and Amenities:
Staff is very friendly and pretty jovial for being that early in the morning. They have members only locker room but allow some access to the playing public. I have never tried their food as we always play here early morning before any of that stuff opens. Large putting green/chipping area near the first tee but the range is a trek from the clubhouse; definitely need to take a cart there. I have never used their range so I cannot comment on its condition.

Greens:
The greens are this course are relatively easy to read with the exception being the few with some large tiers and a deceiving slopes that blend well with the surround topography. Greens were rolling relatively slow, albeit true. The greens were a bit firmer than I remember but were still holding shots and even backing up wedges on a few.

Fairways:
The fairways were very firm and getting better than last time I played them. While there exist some barespots on the fringes of the holes intended play areas, if you keep it in the center of them, there is a nice lush grass pillow to hit off of. They provided very nice rollout and good lies for iron shots on average. Some of the fairways require local knowledge for tee shots because a well placed center landing may roll off into the rough or OB on a few holes due to severe slopes with quick fairways.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were a bit odd...greenside bunkers were very firm with thin lies while the fairway bunkers tended to have about 2" of soft sand in them. Our group had a few "Fried-Eggs" in fairway bunkers from tee shots but not a single one when missing an approach shot into a greenside bunker.

Tee Boxes:
Flat but thin. Could always find a level teeing spot, however some of the par 3s had pretty bad/deep divots.

Rough:
About 1" long in spots and but other spots were completely bare. Depending on how it was sitting, the rough was deep/thick enough to produce crazy fliers. Not too tough to get a club through at all.

Overall:
Not a bad course to play for the $64 price tag on the weekend but it is a trek from San Diego proper. It has a fun layout and but is still a work in progress. Go check it out to help them afford to keep their rehabilitation going!
9 Likes.
Date: 6/7/2019

POP: 3:30 (Played Back 9 twice)
Weather: Sunny/Mid 70's
Time: 1:28pm


Note: The front 9 is closed for an extended maintenance project so 18 holes is played through looping the front playing to two different pins on each green.

Service and Amenities:
Being a country club the services and amenities are definitely top notch. Staff is always super friendly and the course has nice practice facilities to warm up.

Greens:
Greens were recently punched (appears to be about 1.5 weeks ago from the amount of recovery) and were sandy. Since they were punched they rolled slow and bumpy but were definitely still playable.

Fairways:
The fairways were firm and well maintained. They provided very nice rollout and good lies for iron shots. No bare spots observed. Fairways have a lot of elevation change but it isn't too tricky. Some blind tee shots, so if you have never played here before the tee shots can be super intimidating. Houses line the course on some holes but do not come into play unless shots are very errant.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were well maintained with fine/course sand mixture. They were uniform all throughout the course and that includes the practice facilities.

Tee Boxes:
Flat and lush. Very Level and well maintained. No excess divots or bare spots with the exceptions of the par 3's since they are getting a ton of play due to the back 9 looping.

Rough:
About 1.5" long and somewhat thick. Not too tough to get a club through at all and tended to produce more fliers than anything.

Overall:
This is a fun course with a decent layout and I will definitely be back!
6 Likes.
Date: 5/12/2019

POP: 3:45
Weather: Overcast/Mid 60's
Time: 6:00am

Service and Amenities:
Staff is very helpful and the cart barn guys are fun to talk with. I always play here first off so I never use the range or practice facilities other than the putting green. The do have a decent bar up top in the clubhouse, but the halfway house never seems to have ice in the mornings.

Greens:
I wont comment on the layout of the greens, because they can be rollercoasters! Greens were rolling relatively fast and true. Something is going on with green #8 and #12; some sort of fungus/disease is killing some parts. Greens are crossings are always very receptive and soft. Later in the day I can imagine these greens would be super bumpy from all the footprint spike marks that appear as you walk around.

Fairways:
The fairways were very firm and well maintained. They provided very nice rollout and good lies for iron shots. No bare spots observed. Nothing too tricky about the fairways here but there are a good amount of blind tee shots, so if you have never played here before the tee shots can be super intimidating.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were well maintained and very fine-grained beach sand. They were uniform all throughout the course and that includes the practice facilities. The sand here is white and fluffy but in some areas it is just too deep to the point of your feet getting buried when trying to get stances in some of the green-side bunkers.

Tee Boxes:
Flat and lush. Very Level and well maintained. No excess divots or bare spots.

Rough:
About 1.5" long and somewhat thick. Depending on how it was sitting, the rough was deep/thick enough to produce crazy fliers or dead shots. Not too tough to get a club through at all.

Overall:
One of the San Diego courses that is on my regular rotation. I feel that it is a solid deal for the price!
13 Likes.
Date: 5/10/2019

POP: N/A - Charity Tournament
Weather: Cool/Rainy - mid 60s
Time: 11:30am

Service and Amenities:
Staff here was very friendly and free valet was very nice. The resort is rather large and being it was my first time here, it was a little overwhelming trying to find everything. This could be a bit skewed because there were a ton of events (excluding the one I was playing in) going on while I was there.

Greens:
The greens were decently quick and definitely receptive. I was getting large amounts of spin on wedge shots so I had to change up the swing to reduce the rollback. Overall, greens rolled fairly true with some bumps. No dead spots observed.

Fairways:
The fairways were very firm and decently maintained. No bare spots observed. Nothing tricky on these fairways and you could pretty much see everything that the hole had to offer. We played the tournament from the white tees so there a lot of tee shots were taken with less than a driver, however if playing from the proper tee boxes I think the hazards would have provided more of a challenge.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were well maintained and very course grained sand. They were uniform all throughout the course.

Tee Boxes:
Flat and lush with some bare spots. Very Level and decently maintained. Some large deep divots took over a few of the par 3s.

Rough:
About 1" long and somewhat thin. Resort course so I wasnt expecting real rough here.

Overall:
This was a nice course and I am glad I got to play it but I would not recommend it for the rack rate. There are much more interesting courses in San Diego for the same price or cheaper.
10 Likes.
Date: 5/4/2019

POP: 3:15 (1:45 front 9, 1:30 back 9)
Weather: 92-98°F
Time: 11:30am

Service and Amenities:
The staff was very friendly and welcoming and the clubhouse attendants were fun and engaging. Nothing spectacular in terms of private club amenities but the range was probably the best I have seen. Impeccable condition of the turf and they provided alignment sticks, balls, club washers, etc at every station. The pro-shop had some awesome deals if you were looking for gear and the guys working there were a lot of fun to talk with.

Greens:
After playing at Rams Hill earlier in the morning, the greens here felt so slow in comparison. To be fair, there rolled very true and probably at a speed of around 8-9 on stimp, but in comparison it felt like we had to really wack the ball to get there. Greens were very firm and took some getting used to as I am a high spin wedge player and was not used to having lob wedges release 3-5ft forward.

Fairways:
The fairways were very firm and well maintained. They provided very nice rollout and good lies for iron shots. No bare spots observed. Nothing too tricky about the fairways here although there were a few spots with large undulation/dips which appear to be drainage routes. These areas were maintained just the same and were in excellent shape but it was a little frustrating to be center of the fairway with a downhill/sidehill lie. I guess that boils down to local course knowledge though.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were well maintained and very course grained sand. They were uniform all throughout the course and that includes the practice facilities. The sand here is the brownish yellow grainy sand which provides firm yet fair lies in the bunker. While the bunkers look thin on sand, you could easily get a club through them without issue. Parkland course had very shallow bunkers with lips no more than 2-3ft high.

Tee Boxes:
Flat and lush. Very Level and well maintained. No excess divots or bare spots.

Rough:
About 1.5" long and somewhat thick. Depending on how it was sitting, the rough was deep/thick enough to produce crazy fliers or dead shots.

Overall:
This was a very nice course and I am glad I got to play it. It was a lot of fun and if I lived in the area I would definitely consider membership here.
6 Likes.
Date: 5/4/2019

POP: 3:30 (1:45 front 9, 1:45 back 9)
Weather: 85-95°F
Time: 7am

Service and Amenities:
The staff was very friendly and welcoming. Service at Rams Hill was on par with other resort style courses such as Pelican Hill. They are very attentive and remember you by name once you introduce yourself (We played here the following day as well and the pro-shop guys greeted us by name as we walked in). Locker rooms inside the clubhouse provided showers and towels to clean up after the round. On course there are tons of water/ice stations (definitely needed in this heat). We did not see a cart person until hole 15 but they provided complimentary bottled water and frozen grapes which was excellent. After the round you get cookies when dropping off the cart -- DELICIOUS!

Greens:
The greens were impeccable and probably some of the best I have ever played. They definitely rolled true and fast. Posted green-speed for the day was 11.1 which they definitely were rolling at by the time we reached the back 9.

Fairways:
The fairways were so lush and in perfect condition. There were no bare spots and no dry patches. They were soft on iron strikes but firm enough to get roll-out on tee shots. The contrast of the deep green fairways against the harsh desert landscape was amazing as well.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were well maintained and had excellent sand. They were uniform all throughout the course and that includes the practice facilities. The sand here is the white beach style stand which you can plug in. The course is littered with bunkers that sometimes have steep lips so you can get in a lot of trouble from misplaced tee/approach shots.

Tee Boxes:
Flat and lush. There was absolutely nothing wrong with them, but if I had to nitpick something it would be that you had to poke around to get longer tees into the ground since there was rock/hard dirt an inch below the tee box but what do you expect when playing a golf course in a rocky desert.

Rough:
About 1.5-2" long and thick. It wasn't horribly punishing but it was definitely enough to make you think twice about what shot you were going to hit. Depending on how it was sitting, the rough was deep/thick enough to produce crazy fliers or dead shots.

Overall:
Amazing course, fun layout and challenging. Easily the best maintained course I have ever played. Ever hole felt different each of the 3 times we played it. If you do end up making the trek out here, try to get a morning tee time as the wind in the afternoons can be brutal. It was fun to see headcovers flying down the cart path and having to hit a 180yard 9i followed by a 110y 9i on the next hole due to wind direction.
9 Likes.
Date: 8/22/2018

POP: 3:30 (1:30 front 9, 2:00 back 9)
Weather: Hot!

Service:
The staff was very friendly and generally welcoming. The service here is probably better than most private courses I have played. They are very attentive and remember you by name once you introduce yourself. They have many amenities available and also provide you with refreshments and cool towels to clean yourself off after the round. The starter was probably the funniest one I have ever met.

Greens:
The greens rolled true, albeit a lot slower than what they looked like they would roll. I am not sure if they were leaving them longer due to the heat we have been having in socal lately, but they were definitely slower than I remember. The greens are also very tricky. Some are very large, some very small, but all of them have a decent amount of undulation and tiers so you need to make sure your approach game is sharp.

Fairways:
The fairways looked a bit dry but did not play that way. They played fairly lush compared to what we expected them to play and were never bare. They were a bit on the firm side but that is typical for this course so you can benefit from good drives. Ball striking off the fairways was a bit firmer than I was used to, and because I tend to take larger divots I had to adjust for these conditions.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were well maintained and had excellent sand. They were uniform all throughout the course and that includes the practice facilities.

Tee Boxes:
Level with minimal ball marks. Some odd locations of the markers with a few pin positions on the par 3s where you couldnt see the pins.

Rough:
About 1-1.5" long but not thick. The rough played like dormant grass and it wasnt too punishing (although that is the least of your worries on this course)

Overall:
I really like Maderas but if you are off on any part of your game you will be losing balls all day. Demanding tee shots, forced carries and narrow holes make for a really fun round.
9 Likes.
Had a Costco deal to play out here and finally had an opportunity to get out with a buddy of mine to check out what the course was all about. With this review I am going to be adding a Service category to my review as I think the way the staff and everyone interacts with you leads to the experience as well.

Tee-Time: 6:07am
POP: 2:45 (1:30 front 9, 1:15 back 9)
Weather: Foggy and warm, about 73degrees

Service:
Staff was very friend and generally welcoming. There were a few people who were ahead of us (a couple of singles that tee'd off before we did) but we had to wait for them to move the pins and finish mowing the greens on the first 5 holes. They had great GPS touchscreens on the carts, however none of the pin locations were correct.

Greens:
The greens rolled true, albeit a lot slower than what they looked like they would roll. The reasons became apparent as we played a few more holes and started to get balls that would plug or leave monster ball marks; they were over-watering (or maybe watering just ahead of us?) and they were getting soggy. By the time we were on hole 14, the greens were totally different: much firmer and much faster which made for a much better few holes.

Fairways:
The fairways had about 80-85% coverage and were fairly firm. I didnt find any bare spots where I had to move my ball but they were definitely all over the place it seemed. I was not impressed with the fairways for the rack-rate cost of this course.

Bunkers:
Bunkers were all very uniform from fairway to greenside. These bunkers consisted of the darker, heavier sand that is fairly coarse. My playing partner ended up in a greenside bunker on a par 3 that he said had almost no sand, however I did not personally experience that.

Tee Boxes:
Level with minimal ball marks with the exception of the par 3's which tended to be chewed up a bit.

Rough:
No much rough existed on this course. Maybe 1/2"-3/4" but really it seemed more like uncut fairway than punishment.

Overall:
I want to check out Oak Glen to see if that course is any more exciting but I was not overly impressed with Willow Glen. Everything about this golf resort was awesome but the layout just wasn't that exciting to me. I had a great time and will play again should I get a good deal, but for the price and distance I drove, I would prefer Steele Canyon.
6 Likes.
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