I don't think I've ever played General Old (maybe in a scramble 20 years ago?) but I have to just point out the great experience I had yesterday. Walked on at about 4pm. Pro shop guy said I couldn't take a cart after 4. I responded that I'm just walking and he said "oh yeah, just go play then", winked at me, and I went on my merry way. Got 12 holes in before it was too dark.

Conditions are not unlike the old San Bernardino Golf Club (one of the greatest low-cost public courses of all time): Thin waste areas off the fairways, not a lot of rough, reasonable fairways with bad spots and they're pretty obviously working on growing the teeboxes which were verging on lush. Bunkers had plenty of actual sand that you can splash out of, which is rarely seen at budget courses these days.

Greens were slow, about as expected, but rolled true - a great confidence boost. Not a lot of tricky breaks, but some tilt here and there.

Layout is actually very interesting to the eye with more than a couple doglegs, elevation changes and many very mature trees lining the fairways.

Looks like the afternoon rate is $40 - quite similar to other courses in the area for similar conditions (see Hemet GC for instance), unfortunately this seems to be the going rate for 'cheap' courses now.

Would you rather pay $45 at Tukwet Canyon and be stuck behind hacker foursomes in carts or $40 to walk an older course that's seen better days, isn't stacked on the teeboxes, and provides a fine challenge from the blues?

Was excited to check out the Ike for the first time after hearing a lot about it. Rate was $99 for 12pm on Friday afternoon. Walked with my partner who's no stranger to big hills, rate was the same with/without cart.

I don't know if you'd call the fairways dormant or what, but they sure weren't lush - I think this is a wintertime thing. You could still take a divot, so overall fine, a lot of runout, fairly dry. Teeboxes were great, hard to find a spot that wasn't flat. Bunkers were a disappointment - hard packed sand that was impossible to splash out of, some had a little mud in them. The rough was there, wasn't very punitive. There were actually more than a few dead/dirt spots around some greens that you could putt right through.

Greens were in great condition and quite challenging - the tip I got was to 'read them from every angle' and that helped a ton in avoiding three-putts.

POP was 5h15, pretty bad. The guys we played with said it usually wasn't like that - front 9 was backed up starting on the 4th hole and took 3 hours, we were the last group to finish 18.

Overall, I thought it was a little too high of a rack rate for the conditions, but the greens were super memorable and "fun" for sickos that love punishment or can't hit accurate approach shots. Didn't see a marshall, beers were $9, didn't try the glizzy. Still, I know I'm going to come back in the springtime and try the Babe.

Still a great bargain to walk sixteen par 3s and two par 4s - you don't even need a tee time to walk, only if you want a cart. Conditions are fine, the greens a little shaggy and not fast. This course keeps things running nicely without frills. Disregard overpriced resort courses, embrace Modelo time.

Played Champions at 8:13am with a cart for $65. This course continues to embody the philosophy of maximum profit with minimal amenities. Conditions haven't changed much, bunkers are crappy/muddy/standing water, but the greens are now back to their pretty fast speeds albiet with many spike marks and unrepaired ball marks - if you can avoid those you'll have putts that roll true and require soft touch. Beverage cart does not have coffee, even though the pro shop said they would have coffee. Restaurant is only open Fri-Sun. Range grass sucks but the practice putting and chipping greens are nice. My recommendation is to just keep driving to Palm Springs...

Not much changed since the 2 week closure for overseeding. Teeboxes still pretty crummy, uneven and chewed up. Fairways are very pleasant to hit off of and also roll drives out nicely, greens were kinda shaggy but rolled true, some parts bumpy. There was a dead gopher in a trap on the 14th teebox. Great POP on the front but horrendous on the back, three singles joined up and ended up waiting on another threesome every shot, playing like they were on TV.

$60 for a 12:30 teetime feels high given the conditions, some parts of the fairways and rough are just not great, plus you have to try not to hit the locals fishing the lakes on the back 9. I guess the layout keeps me coming back, that and Tukwet was all booked today.

$30 to play the back 9 at 12:30pm. Layout is still broken, so you have to drive the cart backwards on 9 holes to get to where you're starting. I asked if someone would drive me out there so I could walk, but they didn't have any spare cart barn folks. Next time for sure.

Honestly the back 9 of this course feels neglected. Huge standing water in #10 fairway, some crappy spots in the fairways themselves, unmarked GUR, bunkers the worst of the whole 36 that I've seen. That said, the greens were reminiscent of this course's former glory: smooth and fast, the only blemishes I saw were unfixed ballmarks and some rough areas on the edges of a few greens.

Worth it? Only if you live down the street like me, probably.

Seven Hills is a great little course that's not too hard, showcasing the accessible side of golf that's available in central Riverside county. Greens are not too fast, but roll true and are actually quite small, putting some pressure on your approach shots - my playing partner was over the greens all day. The layout is mostly flat and wide parkland style, teeboxes are 'you can find a flat spot if you hunt' level and not chewed up. The rough is actually cut like rough here, and will punish you with bad lies if you find it. Bunkers are actually playable soft sand, which is more than I can say for Tukwet Canyon or Yucaipa Valley (yes I'm naming names). 100% walkable, carts have no GPS, every hole has distance stakes from 100 to 250. Clubhouse includes a nice looking restaurant and patio, there are multiple chipping/putting greens for practice in addition to the range. Go check it out - the layout might not be as interesting as Hemet GC but there are great rounds of golf to be played here. Make sure to pay tribute to the broken tee garden next to the 18th teebox.

1:39 "hot tee time" on GolfNow was $63 for two players, we walked even though the cart was included. Course is in good shape after aeration of the greens, even the 2nd and 18th which were kind of scorched have grown back the dead patches. Incredibly (maybe due to this being a league day) we had no one in front or behind and were able to walk 18 as a twosome in 3.5 hours. I think that is lucky for this course, usually it's busier. Rough is deeper in some spots, greens are definitely firm, teeboxes are middling but you can find a flat spot to stand... this is a fine time to get out at Yucaipa.

Got a "hot time" on GolfNow, $55 with cart for 2 players at 1:50. There was no starter, my buddy and I teed off around 2:00 due to being silly gooses, also joined by another player who got the 1:50 deal and was also running late.

Conditions are good with some bad spots. Teeboxes unlevel at parts, but actually cut. Fairways are great, even managed to hit a perfect dinger 4-wood out of a sandy divot. The rough is thinner in some parts and more punitive in others. Greens rolled great but were VERY soft - a high-flighted 7 iron from 160 plugged very deep in the 14th green and every shot that hit a green from a well-struck iron left a huge divot. They felt kind of... spongy? and have some tricky less-than-you-think breaks around the holes.

The 'hot deal' is probably the only way I would play a full round here. I just don't think it's worth full rate, they actually will charge $50 for 9 holes on the weekends.

There is a grill/snack bar/booze bar in the clubhouse now, didn't partake in a glizzy but they gave my playing partner the last of the morning coffee for free, and it didn't taste half bad and was strong, so, that's something. No beverage cart to speak of, despite plenty of other people out on the course.

While the Champions course is closed for overseeding, Legends has the front 6 holes or back 9 available. There is a bridge out between the 6th and 7th hole and there's no telling when it'll be repaired due to environmental impact studies or somesuch, I've heard from the cart barn and pro shop guys.

That said, the greens on Legends are in reasonable shape but you really get the feeling that management/ownership here really just doesn't care about golf. No appreciable improvements seem to have been made and things continue to be just kinda crummy, including standing water in some bunkers, rocks in bunkers, bare spots on fairways or greens, unlevel or beat up teeboxes, etc.

$20 for the front 6 is a fine deal, but I wish there wasn't a security guard in a cart hounding the area to make sure I'm not replaying. The pro shop stated it would be another $20 to replay which is a blatant rip-off - with the broken routing they should just offer two 6's given the conditions.

Release your expectations and come experience truly great muni golf. Short par 35 layout includes eight par 4's and one par 3. No holes longer than ~260 yards, but tall trees and a couple dog-legs will force you to make a shot off the tee. Challenge yourself by just playing the whole thing with a 7-iron, wedge and putter. Fairways are actually lush and well-maintained. Greens are unfortunately not in great shape, bumpy and bare in spots with patches of different grasses, but they are genuinely hard and fast and not receptive to approach shots - you have to hit it high. I paid $8 (yes, eight whole dollars) to walk 9 holes in the afternoon on a Sunday and I think I've found my new favorite short walking track after the old San Bernardino Golf Club closed down.

Got a 3:03pm tee time by calling, $45 bucks twilight rate including cart. I would call that 'not great, not terrible' for a Saturday afternoon on this track. Teeboxes are mostly good, some unlevel/beat up spots. Fairways and rough mostly lush with good lies, some funky or dead spots. Bunkers are played as waste areas and you might find good sand or you might find hard dirt or standing water or mud. Was supposed to be playing with three others, they let me go out ahead, caught up with a twosome on the third and was waiting on teeboxes on the front nine which turned into waiting on almost every shot on the back 9. POP was about 4h40m.

I'd like to specifically call out the greens: they were running faster than usual due to an AJGA tournament of some kind happening on this day, but are still quite bumpy/pockmarked in places, some dry/dead spots and just lots of unrepaired ball/spike marks. Basically, they roll nice when you don't have something wacky in your line!

Restaurant was open when we teed off, no drink cart due to the junior tournament, generally fine service and friendly staff. Some of the water refill stations were empty. Blue tees remain quite challenging, they had some playing forward and some playing from the tips (!) which was an interesting change.