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Played here yesterday with nodoubles22 for our GK Cup match. We got a great “Deal” time on TeeOff.com for $44/ea. after promo code. Glad we opted to p... » More
Played here yesterday with nodoubles22 for our GK Cup match. We got a great “Deal” time on TeeOff.com for $44/ea. after promo code. Glad we opted to play in the desert because it was a beautiful day while the L.A. basin was socked in under thick cloud cover all day. Wind kicked up a little bit toward the end of our round. The course was busy and pace was sluggish (around 4:45), made worse by the impatient group behind us who yelled for us to pick up the pace, attempted to pass us until they realized there was nowhere to go and hit into us as we were leaving a green complex one time. So, jerks, basically. (nodoubles22 exacted some harmless revenge in one instance, which was funny.) Customer service was great and the facilities are topnotch!
Conditions are very nice! Greens were a little crusty but rolled smooth at medium-fast to fast speeds. They were more firm than soft, but full shots would check up. Chips rarely checked up unless precisely struck. It was rare to make a ball mark. Fairways were 95% great with a few sporadic browned-out areas. Rough was lush and not very penal. Tee boxes were good. A few had areas with quite a few divots. I was in a ton of bunkers and they all had sufficient sand and in good condition.
I’d only played this course once around 2002 or so. I remembered liking it but I really enjoyed it yesterday. The scorecard says Faldo (with Schmidt/Curley) designed it to emulate sandbelt courses, and I’ve been very interested in Royal Melbourne lately, so I loved that aspect of it. Fun time playing with nodoubles22 and I hope we get to play together again soon!
Here’s a Flickr photo album I created of 40 photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmjYJJyC» Close
Ringworld and I played our GK Cup match here today. 11:06 "Deal" time through TeeOff.com for a very nice price. Maybe the heat chased everyone away, b... » More
Ringworld and I played our GK Cup match here today. 11:06 "Deal" time through TeeOff.com for a very nice price. Maybe the heat chased everyone away, because I checked in around 10:35 and was told the course was pretty open and we could start whenever we wanted. A walking single joined us but dropped back after we both birdied the second hole, fearing he couldn't keep up with us (haha). Pace of play was outstanding, finishing in about 3:20. Saw the beverage cart twice with its great prices! Gotta love that about El Prado!
The course is just in okay condition. The greens show lots of visual evidence of aeration but rolled pretty smooth and medium fast. They held full shots pretty well but chips will run out a bit. Fairways vary from good to thin. Rough is the low point of the course, non-existent in many areas and with lots of animal holes, etc. I was in one bunker and it was thin but better than I expected. Tee boxes were mediocre but workable.
I love this layout. I just wish it was in better condition. The carts and paths are really beat-up, too. All that said, I am very happy they are still open and still consider this one of the best "value" courses anywhere around.» Close
There are two ways to rate a course: One is the aesthetic value and lushness and maintenance of the grass, while the other is based purely on the play... » More
There are two ways to rate a course: One is the aesthetic value and lushness and maintenance of the grass, while the other is based purely on the playability of the course. I bring this up because since it reopened several years ago, Rams Hill has been THE STANDARD for that first description. Yesterday’s round was the first time I’ve ever seen a little browning in the fairways, but here’s the catch: The course is arguably playing better than ever despite not being perfectly green from edge to edge.
Firmer fairways mean the already-present contours become accentuated, and more fun. The greens are running slower than I’ve seen them in the past, but if they hadn’t been, the course might’ve been unplayable with yesterday’s insane wind. I’ll wrap up this preface to my review by saying that it seems Rams Hill is exceptional either way: Manicured to perfection or a little drier but faster and bouncier.
Played with dconnally and Rat-Patrol yesterday and we started around 1:30. We pretty much had the course to ourselves, but extremely strong winds slowed our pace, and we finished in a little under 4:30. (Huge thanks to dconnally, dcricket and Rams Hill for the circumstances that led to me playing there yesterday.)
The greens were smooth, mostly firm and rolling about medium speed. Putts hit into the wind really needed to be smacked, which felt odd. Downwind shots were very difficult to stop on the greens. Fairways were mostly great except a few thinner spots here and there, but even those areas were fun. For instance, on the 419-yard par-4 14th, my drive must’ve caught a speed slot and I only had about 40 yards downhill to the green. Rather than attempt a precise chip off the tight fairway, I opted to putt and ran it onto the green. It would’ve been fun to putt a whole bucket of balls from that spot. Most of the rough was lush and very easy to hit from, probably about an inch deep. Blue tee boxes were good overall. All the bunkers I was in had plentiful sand.
I think I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: I enjoy Rams Hill more and more each time I play it, and I can’t wait to get back out there.» Close
Played here yesterday at 7:46 with sixpez and mpisarski01. Great deal on TeeOff.com for $28.50. Teed off right on time and despite waiting on most sho... » More
Played here yesterday at 7:46 with sixpez and mpisarski01. Great deal on TeeOff.com for $28.50. Teed off right on time and despite waiting on most shots, pace was good at around 4:00. We played the West/South rotation.
As Keith already detailed, conditions are excellent across the board. Greens were in great shape, super lush and healthy. They were very smooth, medium speed and held full shots pretty well. A little more firm than soft. Fairways were excellent and provided perfect lies all day. Rough was consistent at about one or two inches deep and in great condition. Bunkers had a little inconsistency but most were very good. Black tee boxes were really nice.
Due to an abundance of palm trees and multiple doglegs, this course requires you to move the ball both ways and provides a fun, scenic layout with many water hazards. I really enjoyed it, especially with the great deal we got.
I made a Flickr photo album of 32 photos that can be viewed here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmhKF2ms» Close
Joined sixpez here today to use an UnderPar voucher he bought a while ago. It was good for 10:30 or later and included a free replay. We booked a 10:3... » More
Joined sixpez here today to use an UnderPar voucher he bought a while ago. It was good for 10:30 or later and included a free replay. We booked a 10:30 tee time and started pretty much on time, although with a warning from the starter that the course was playing slow. He wasn't kidding. Our first round took 5 hours 17 minutes and felt like we'd played 36 already. Fortunately, after that round we checked with the pro shop and they were able to send us right back out. In round 2 we played through a few groups and finished in around 3 hours, with only a little sunlight remaining. Mostly cloudy skies, a little wind, warm temps until the sun started to go down, at which point it got sorta chilly.
Course conditions are mixed. The greens are very good: Smooth, fast and accept full shots well. I debated between rating them a 7 or 8 but settled on 7. Fairways have good coverage but are a little thin, providing tight lies. What rough there is is quite good, a little fluffier than the fairways and sometimes easier to hit from. Not very penal at all. Then there's also the absence of rough since the turf reduction a few years ago, which isn't very attractive and oftentimes leads to balls rolling forever on hardpan or dirt. Tee boxes (we played blue both rounds) were the low point of conditions, with most/many pretty beat up and a few good ones. Bunkers were the high point of conditions, with very well maintained sand in sufficient quantity. Nice to see!
This is a fun layout with a number of great holes, but overall the course currently feels a bit neglected. It's decent enough, but at one point many years ago it was really nice. I'd love to see it return to those standards. Still recommended.» Close
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