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Played 36 holes out here yesterday with sixpez using an SCGA voucher. Pace was great, finishing 36 in about six hours, 10 minutes. Very hot (100+) day with occasional breezes. Played the nines in this order: Classic #1, Classic #2, Lake, Classic #2.

The course is in pretty good condition. Greens were smooth, fast and firm with sharp edges on the holes. Difficult to hole putts unless ball was center cut. I'm not sure how deep into summer these greens will survive, as many of them were already crusty and thin. But as of now, they're rolling great and despite their firmness, full shots stopped somewhat quickly for me. Fairways were mostly lush with some brown spots here and there, but very nice for the most part. Rough had mostly good coverage and was cut pretty short, providing really nice lies. Bunkers were all crusty, and like Keith said, the only way to get a good spot was to end up where someone had already raked earlier in the day. Definitely in need of some attention. Tee boxes were good all day.

The course itself was a little underwhelming to me. It's a solid test and has some nice, subtle elevation changes for a Coachella Valley "housing development" course. I always remembered the 18th hole creating such drama at the Bob Hope Desert Classic, but that's one of very few good, memorable holes. Most of the holes are somewhat generic "desert golf" holes like those that could be found throughout the Valley. The Lake nine seemed to have more elevation changes and was maybe a little more interesting than the Classic nines. On the plus side, the staff was very welcoming and the course provided ample water stations and drinking fountains throughout. I'm definitely glad I played it, but was hoping for something more memorable.

Here's a link to my Flickr photo album of 45 photos: https://flic.kr/s/aHskVVqp3u
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Played out here in the GK Review Guru outing today with sixpez, gary00 and sparky14. Teed off around 10:10 and POP was pretty good, 4:20 total. Hot, sunny day with a breeze that seemed to build throughout the round.

Course is in good condition, playing better than it looks (although it doesn't look bad, just a tad on the dry/scruffy side in spots). I agree with Gary that the greens were hard to read. Our group didn't make any putts, but it wasn't the fault of the course. The greens are in good/great condition, smooth and running medium-fast. They accepted full shots quite well. Fairways are firm and fast and in good condition. They don't look super lush, but they play great. Like Gary said, very tight lies in spots. The rough was a little spottier with occasional bare spots and/or clumpy grass, but good for the most part as well. The bunkers were full of sand and excellent, some of the best I've played recently. Blue tee boxes were all good.

Always a fun course and even better when playing it with GK'ers!
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I played in the second GK Review Guru group yesterday, teeing off around 1:20 with kevbig, MrKich and chevelle. Good times! Weather was mostly cloudy, bright overcast skies and a pretty good breeze blowing most all day. Curiously, it seemed to be a crosswind on nearly every hole; very rarely helping or hurting much. POP was ideal at 3:50. Really appreciated the course delivering pin sheets to us when we realized the pins weren't set according to the customary 1-2-3-4 green segments.

Conditions are tip-top right now! The greens are smooth and medium-fast to fast. They are very accepting of short irons (I spun back a couple wedge shots) but longer clubs took a bounce or two before stopping. About medium firmness, which I think fits this layout well. The fairways were lush with great coverage, providing perfect lies all day. The rough was also very lush and well maintained. For the most part, balls sat up on top and it wasn't too penal. Tee boxes were excellent. As others have mentioned, the bunkers are the lone weak spot right now. I was in two, and both felt like they could use some more sand or a deep raking. They did have a thin layer of soft sand on top, but just underneath the surface seemed too firm. I rated everything a 9 except the bunkers.

My appreciation for this course grows with each visit I make. Looking forward to getting out there again soon!
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Finally played Goat Hill Park for the first time today. Their tee sheet looked wide open on the website, so I didn’t make a tee time and arrived around 1:00. I had a coupon from some sort of community discount card purchased from a Boy Scout that was buy one green fee, get one free, so it was $26 for my son and I to walk. Very friendly woman in the pro shop welcomed us and gave us a little “Local Knowledge” card as an addendum to the scorecard. That was a big help for us first timers. The range was busy but few people seemed to be heading out on the course. After my son hit a small bucket, we teed off. Walking pace was about 3:25, getting pushed a little by a twosome in a cart on the last couple holes. Pretty good breeze most of the afternoon, sunny skies and temps in the upper 60s.

Course conditions are quite good. The greens seem very healthy. I think salt air does them good, because they reminded me a bit of the greens at Olivas Links. Very thick, strong turf that felt sort of wiry when you fixed ball marks. Despite the great coverage and smooth cut, they were quite slow. I’d say slow to medium-slow. I can’t remember the last time I played greens this slow, and I had a hard time adjusting. They were also pretty firm. The few full shots where I actually hit the green today all took a bounce or two before stopping. Fairways were pretty lush with good coverage. Rough varied from bare spots to dry grass to lush, nasty green grass. Tee boxes were good. Neither my son nor I were in any bunkers. There aren’t many bunkers on the course, but the ones I saw looked quite good.

Opinions on this course seem to run the gamut, but I enjoyed it a lot. Tons of elevation changes, and really great topography for golf. It’s tough, too. Definitely a good workout to walk it. The par-4 12th was my favorite hole, which plays from an elevated tee to a diagonal fairway, and then up a chute to the small, elevated green. A few minor nitpicks: I didn’t see any drinking water available on the course; would love to see a few jugs added throughout the course. The routing is a bit confusing for a first-time visitor, but we never got too lost. I got burned on a few holes by lack of local knowledge, where I hit what I thought were good shots and then they weren’t. Guess I’ll just have to go back!

Oh, also, we saw a big snake on the 10th green!

To see that and 49 other photos of Goat Hill Park, copy and paste this url to access my Flickr photo album: https://flic.kr/s/aHskVoKTYU
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Played here today at 11:03, using a TeeOff.com "Deal" time and 30% off promo code. Pretty great deal! First time here. When I arrived around 10:15, the course looked full for ladies day and then there were quite a few men members on the range, waiting to go out. The pro shop guy was friendly and invited me to hit some balls and said he’d probably get me started a little early. He paired me with a couple and we teed off around 11:00, probably 15 minutes after the last member group. We never waited on anyone all day, although we let a single through on the back nine. Total POP was 3:45 but felt a little longer.

Conditions are quite good but a little inconsistent throughout the course. The greens were medium-fast to fast. Downhillers could really get away from you easily. They showed visual signs of recent aeration, but no bumps or affect of any kind on how the ball rolled. They were pretty soft and accepted full shots well. Fairways were really lush and nice in some spots and then a little thinner in others. Good coverage overall but lies were somewhat inconsistent. Rough was also sort of inconsistent but mostly good coverage and not too penal. Some dried out and/or clumpy areas, though. Blue tee boxes were good. I was in one bunker and it was nice.

I liked the layout quite a bit. It was definitely more interesting (and more difficult) than I expected, based on what I had seen from the street on the way to Maderas a few times. There are very few flat, straightforward holes here. Almost every hole has some sort of elevation change, dogleg, hazards, etc., and many combine more than one of those features. There are also lots of mature trees and occasional rock outcroppings that create some real “jail” spots, and I tended to find them often. I had to chip out of trees sideways three separate times today. There are also some blind shots: The fairway is completely obscured from the blue tee on both the 11th and 18th holes. (You can tell where the hole goes, but you can’t see the landing area.) Overall the course reminded me a bit of Legends/Temeku Hills, but also a little bit of Los Serranos and even Shorecliffs in spots. There’s not much of a “prestige/private club” aura at all. On the good side, the few members I encountered seemed very friendly and welcoming. In my opinion, definitely worth a play while it lasts on TeeOff.com.

Misc.: The 9th hole can play as either a par 3 or 4. Today the sign on the first tee said No. 9 was playing as a par 3, but then the tees were actually at their par 4 boxes. Range had nice mats and limited-flight balls, hit into a dry hillside. There's a tiny practice putting green right at the range but another larger one on the other side of the clubhouse, although I didn't notice that one until playing the 2nd hole. No beverage cart today. There is ice/water station with cups, lids and straws adjacent to the clubhouse.

If you’re interested, here’s my Flickr photo album of 38 photos from today: https://goo.gl/BDq193
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Played a GK Review Guru round with dconnally, gary00 and leef2020 here Wednesday at 11:04. Fun times! We arrived early to use the range, but they were doing some maintenance on it so it was closed all day. We then asked if we could get out early, but they were very busy. They did start us about 10 minutes early, and the pace was pretty slow all day. Total POP was 4:55. Partly cloudy skies when we arrived gave way to clear blue skies by the time we started. It got pretty windy a few times, but overall a very pleasant weather day.

The course is in good/decent condition overall. Greens are mostly smooth, although they seemed to get a little bumpy later in the day. They were more firm than soft, as I had a hard time getting shots to stop quickly. They ran about medium speed. A few greens (No. 4 comes to mind) had some pretty major bare spots near the edge. Fairways have mostly good coverage. Some are a mix of grasses and others are more pure looking. Overall good fairway lies all day. Rough had good coverage (for the most part; some bare spots here and there) and was fairly short and not very penal. Blue tee boxes were good, maybe the best conditioned part of the course right now. I was in four bunkers: One behind the 12th green was damp and hard packed, and my footprints barely made any tracks. The two fairway bunkers I was in were both good. The greenside bunker short-right of No. 17 was really nice.
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Played here Monday morning with a 7:10 GN Hot Deal time. I started around 6:50, paired with two Vegas locals. I saw a group several holes ahead of us, but there was never anyone directly in front or behind us. We finished in 3:30. Weather was nice with partially cloudy skies to start and then clear blue skies from about the 7th hole on.

Conditions are good overall and pretty consistent throughout the course. I think I rated everything either a 7 or 8. Greens were smooth, medium to medium slow, and semi-firm. My full approach shots typically took a bounce before stopping, but that could also be due to the crowned and heavily undulating greens here. It seems quite a few greens have spots rolling away from the incoming shot. Fairways were deep green and lush for the most part. Not ultra pure, but nice. Rough was about 2 inches deep and also lush with good coverage. Back (6,222 yards -- I sent Johnny the new scorecard to hopefully update the one here.) tee boxes were good. I was in a few bunkers and they were all good.

This was my first time here and I enjoyed myself alright, but I'm having a hard time really forming any strong opinions – good or bad – about this course. Maybe I researched it too much, because it was very much what I expected – a middle-of-the-road Vegas golf option. The "Carolina pines" theme didn't really resonate much for me, as in I never really felt transported out of the desert to the Carolina sandhills as they allude to on their website. There's tons of mounding and moguls all over the course, and a recurring theme found on multiple holes is mounding in front of the green to conceal the green's surface. The whole course is squeezed into a small plot of land, and done so pretty effectively, although big freeway billboards looming over several holes are unfortunate. A few holes and specifically the 17th tee has a cool view of Downtown Las Vegas and the Stratosphere farther to the left. Overall, I'm glad I played here but as an out-of-towner, I doubt I'll rush back anytime soon. If I lived in Vegas, it's a fun enough course that I'd put it in my regular rotation, and I believe they have some really good resident rates.

My Flickr photo album of 54 photos here: https://goo.gl/K8GT09
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Joined the Guru group out here yesterday, playing the blacks with JohnnyGK, rgm2525 and GDR23. Really fun round on a magnificent course. Thank you Johnny for setting it up and thank you to RSM for accommodating us. Teed off on time and pace wasn't an issue with not many people out on the course. We let a single through at the turn and otherwise dictated our own pace, and finished in about 4:30.

The course is in really nice condition, highlighted by excellent greens. They were smooth, fast and accepted full shots very well. Fairways were good overall. They weren't super pure, but they had good coverage except for a few spots here and there. The 15th hole had some bare spots. The rough also had good coverage with a few bare spots here and there. Most of the rough was about two inches deep, but then farther off line are really deep grasses where you'll be lucky to find your ball. These provide a nice aesthetic. The bunkers I was in were a little inconsistent, but decent/good overall. The black tee boxes had nearly immaculate grass, but several of them seemed to have channels underneath the surface that sometimes made finding a flat spot difficult, so I knocked my rating down a point for that.

This was my first time here and I absolutely loved the the course. Talk about pure golf! The modest little pro shop/snack bar shows that golf is the main emphasis here. Great practice facilities with a really good chipping/sand area, a big putting green and a nice all grass range. The views are phenomenal and the course feels like it sprawls over a lot of land and includes lots of great elevation changes. I'd estimate it immediately ranks among the top 15-20% of my favorite courses I've ever played.

I posted 50 photos to a Flickr photo album that can be viewed by copying and pasting this URL: https://goo.gl/mh4kro
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Played a GK Cup match out here today with gary00. 10:30 tee time using a GolfMoose voucher. I used my $25 GolfMoose prize from the Rams Hill GK Plays toward the voucher, so we got an excellent deal. Course was pretty busy and we started about 10 minutes late. We waited on most holes but POP wasn't bad overall. Big gusts of wind at times under intermittently sunny/cloudy skies.

The course looks great right now and plays pretty good, too. The greens are the highlight, fast and smooth. They accept full shots well but shorter shots really need some spin to stop quickly. They are pretty glassy and you need to be careful on downhillers. Fairways have good coverage but lack uniformity. They are a bit thin in spots and sort of patchy with different types of grass growing throughout. The rough also has good coverage and different types of grass, some of which is pretty deep and penal. I wasn't in a bunker but Gary said some he was in could've used more attention/better raking. Tee boxes were very good to great.

I've always enjoyed this course, and the rains seem to have greened up this whole community and it looks very nice. Recommended.
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Played out here yesterday in the back half of a fantastic 36-hole GK Review Guru day. Thank you Johnny for setting up such great deals on amazing courses! Paired with Johnny, Larry and sixpez. POP was a bit over 4:30, but I really didn't want the day to end, so whatever was fine as long as we finished. Toasty temps and little wind.

Course conditions are excellent/near immaculate. Greens were outstanding, smooth, fast and mostly firm. Difficult to get full shots to stop on many greens. Fairways and rough were perfectly lush, although the rough didn't look as visually stunning as it could had it been overseeded everywhere. Tee boxes were absolutely ideal, a perfect 10 in my book. Bunkers were a little inconsistent: first one I was in was a little thin and crusty, but the rest were all good.

This was my first time here after hearing lots of great things about this course over the years. It very much feels like a course built to host a PGA Tour event. It's definitely a "big" course where everything seems oversized. In that regard, it reminded me somewhat of the Plantation Course at Kapalua or Southern Highlands in Las Vegas. (Although no elevation changes like those courses, and a more contrived construction/feel.) I was slightly underwhelmed over the first six holes, but the design takes a turn for the better at the 7th and just keeps rolling to the finish. Tons of water hazards on many holes, many of which are beautifully landscaped and bordered by rocks, etc. I played the 6,711-yard blue tees, with the black stretching another 600 yards to 7,300, so it'll give you all the challenge you want.

I took a ton of photos and uploaded 66 of them to a Flickr photo album here: https://goo.gl/oYvvcy
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Played in yesterday's GK Review Guru outing with sixpez and sparky14. We were the first group of the day and zoomed through the course in about 3:15. Beautiful clear desert day with very little wind.

The course is nearly immaculate throughout. The greens ran smooth and accepted full shots well. It took me a while to gauge the speed of the greens accurately; overall they were running medium-fast. I noticed some pock marks on some greens but they didn't affect anything. Fairways were lush green carpets, some of the most pristine I've ever seen or played. Rough was also perfectly lush, cut pretty short. Tee boxes were excellent (I was going to rate them a 10 until Classic Club later in the day were even better, so I knocked these down to a 9). Sand in the bunkers was great.

Always a treat to play what's arguably the prettiest public-access course in the Coachella Valley. Thanks Johnny for another great outing! I made a new Flickr photo album of 45 photos that can be viewed by copying and pasting this link: https://goo.gl/DZHwB8
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Played here as the back half of my mini Vegas golf trip this week. Had an 11:53 GolfNow Hot Deal time on Thursday. Outside services attendant pulled up with my cart as soon as I parked, which was a nice touch. It was a beautiful day and the course was very busy, but I started just about on time. Total POP was about 4:10. After looking up at snow-capped Mt. Charleston from Paiute the day before, I got great views of the back side of the mountain here.

Conditions are great. The greens were medium fast, mostly smooth (one playing partner had a few bumpy putts) and very firm. Fairways were excellent: lush deep green coverage from edge to edge. Rough was very good as well, cut pretty short. Bunkers were the low point. I was only in two and they were fine, but one of my playing partners is a member who said they are inconsistent and many are hard. Tee boxes were pristine.

This is a nice, resort-style course and a good value option in the Vegas vicinity (although nearly an hour drive). With the two nines built at different times with different architects, it's a little bit disjointed. Ironically, the nine that runs through a housing tract is more interesting and memorable than the undeveloped one. I really enjoyed most of the back nine.

Here's a link to my Flickr photo album of 43 photos from Mountain Falls: https://goo.gl/q80Z9v
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