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Played San Clemente for the first time this morning. Walked 18 in 3.5 hours with a 6:27 tee time. Super impressed with the layout, condition and pace of play. Fairways and tee boxes are in excellent shape. Greens are also excellent and look pretty straight forward until you putt them and encounter subtle breaks that may not be easy to see at first glance. And they are fast. Fast, but fair. Amazingly, I avoided the sand for all 18 holes so can't comment on the traps condition. Pro shop staff and Marshall were top shelf, professional and personable. I have lived in San Diego area for 25 plus years and can't believe today was the first time I played this gem. I'll be back!
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My buddy and I played Friday 7/3 teeing off@12:020 and joining another twosome. They played blues and we the whites. I hadn't played this course in years and I think the overall conditions are pretty solid by most muni standards. Generally good coverage on the tees and fairways with good lies. Rough could get thicker and costly at times but was generally green and maintained. Bunkers were pretty clean, firm-ish, and rakes were being used. The greens were pretty clean and running a quick medium but not too quick. Minimal pitch marks. Pace varied but wasn't too bad overall — a little over 4.5 if I recall. If you like the course or want to try it out, I can recommend it.

On a totally personal note, I have only played it a very few times over the years and I find it tediously long for my game, even from the whites. A lot of long, mostly straight, fours that seem like short fives to me and frequently narrow windows in the tree lined fairways to make offline shots that much more costly. Too often I needed to hit perfect drive and long second shots to have chance at par and I'm not that consistent. It wore on me at some point. I think it is noteworthy that in roarksown1's review, being required to play from the reds seemed to make it a more enjoyable experience. If I go back, I will have to try that. But conditions are good, mine is a subjective opinion, and it is worth judging for yourself. It is the more popular of the two courses so that says something about me and the course. Enjoy.
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Awesome conditions out here in Pomona/Fairplex today. 9:20 the starter moved the 4 sum to the tees. Beautiful tee boxes thru 18, fairways lush no excuse golf. Greens receiving well and rolling just right. Pin and slope tricky now and then. Sand generally gettable but did see some very wet/firm. Rough not a issue today. Decent carts no GPS, love the full length cart paths and welcomed the bathrooms on #6 and #15/#16 area. You will find a small driving range on matts with good targets, yellow balls only. Great bar resturant, fairly large pro shop well stocked with all the goods. 88 degrees by 2pm today. Gonna get warmer so get out now and challenge the Meadows!
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Played and ran another super fun golf outing at Western Hills CC. I sound like a broken record with my reviews, but the conditions/experience a WHCC keep getting nicer and nicer with every visit. Yesterday, 7/6, we experienced super lush kikuyu/bermunda fairways, rough and green complexes. Greens were in beautiful shape mostly smooth, holding shots and med/fast. We played the white tees, which are the most popular due to how challenging Western Hills CC is, we I found the tees to be level, mostly lush and groomed. The only aspect of the course that could use some, not much, improvement to meet the same playing conditions standards as the rest of the course is the bunkers. Although well groomed, the sand was mostly firm and thin. The sand quality did make it easier to escape the traps as the ball would always sit-up and settle in level parts of the bunkers…so I’m not complaining – LOL.

Western Hills CC provides an excellent staging area for golf events. Everything needed is in close proximity to each other. Clubhouse, Snack Bar/Restaurant, Driving Ranch, Practice Putting, Short-Game Area, 1st/10th Tee Boxes, Parking Lot and Bathrooms. Just set up your check-in table in the shaded patio section and you’re good to go. It’s easy to keep track of all your players and keep them informed.

Thank you everyone that came out to play!

BIG THANKS to GKers rgm2525 and sparky14 for helping me run this event and many others :)

Check out the photos I just posted!

Highly Recommended!
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RPGC event this weekend was at Lakewood and I was really looking forward to playing here again after a long absence. I do enjoy this course a lot and feel it suits my game pretty well (even though the best I've ever shot here is 86!). Practice facility is solid and course conditions are about what you would expect at this time.

One very annoying note - there is a snack shop not only at the turn (near the tunnel), but also after the second hole. It was a Sunday afternoon. Course's tee sheet was full. The snack shop I was so looking forward to was closed. I spoke to someone inside and they said 'It's not busy so I closed up.' What? On a busy Sunday for a holiday weekend? Unacceptable and terrible customer service. An absolute joke.

Okay, rant over. POP was pretty decent overall but we still took about four and a half hours overall on an incredible and warm summer day. There are some thin areas in the fairways but overall they're pretty darn good. Tee boxes (played the whites) also in serviceable shape - flat and level. Bunkers were a little bit thin but playable with a good strike. Rough was very playable.

Greens were in nice shape overall with a few pitch marks around but nothing too terrible. I was leaving a lot of putts short all day - most likely due to having played the fast greens at Hacienda just days before, but they were rolling pretty nicely and at medium-fast speeds. They held shots pretty well and were inviting for good chips if hit well.

We had cart service fortunately come around twice (once on the front, once on the back) and overall it was a solid performance from Lakewood that won't make me hesitate about signing up for the next event here.
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Fortunate enough to get a late invite to play Hacienda again this past weekend and it was once again a tremendously beautiful challenge that never allows you to let your guard down from the first hole until the last.

Good news - the practice area that was being redone last time I played at Hacienda is now finished, so there is a small but very nice driving range and practice greens near the clubhouse. This is a very important update to the club's amenities and it's been done really well.

The course itself is a masterclass of challenge. The distances are long, the carries are intimidating, the greens are lighting fast and the overall course conditions are just a shade under immaculate at the current time. It's just so easy here to get yourself into a tricky situation, and the solutions are rarely straightforward. The layout is divine and it throws everything at you at once.

Conditions, as previously stated, are near perfect, but a little summer has creeped in for a few spots on the course. But overall the fairways are beautiful carpet that are a treat to hit from, while the rough (recently mowed down thankfully) is still a beast. I made the mistake early of trying to get too much out of my long irons when I should have bitten the bullet and used an 8 smartly instead. The bunkers are in great shape and the tee boxes (we played from the V set of tees) were perfect - at least until I got through with them.

Greens are just insanely good and so difficult to get close. Shots (mostly chips) that seemed good would run out a mile and then you would be left with a 70ft downhill lag - good luck! I had three 3-putts on the front nine trying to figure out the speed, but finally settled down and only had one on the back - still not great! But the tiers and subtlety of the breaks is just perfect. It's a real test of putting that you won't find just anywhere.

Not being able to reliably use my driver makes this course incredibly tough but I'm looking forward to the next chance to get out there and take another crack at it. Every visit gives a little more course knowledge and you'll definitely need that at a place like Hacienda to be successful.
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Played today 7/6. This course has really gone downhill over the last 6 years. Hundreds of unfiixed divots in the fairways. Many ballmarks on the greens. They aerated in April and you still see the aeration holes on the greens. The fairways look like they can't grow the grass. Almost no rough anywhere. It's just very disappointing to see a 1st class course decline so much. Present management seems to not really care. Very overpriced for the experience.
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Went to the beautiful parade and then went to play golf and fireworks tonight. Great way to spend the 250 birthday of America.

Found the course to be in great shape.

Tee boxes clean/level no teeing issues.

Fairways have excellent coverage lies and rollout on all holes.

Rough was high and its difficult to play out of throughout the course.

Traps were all in great shape and I was fortunate to not find any. But I heard no complaints from my playing partners.

Greens are all elevated on this course and many guarded by bunkers. You need an excellent iron and wedge game to have many greens in regulations. Mine is a work in progress after S CA courses.

Greens are well manicured and chip/putt and hold and release shots very well.

POP was a great 4 H given the many players on the course today.

Had the usual great price beer ($4 draft) and $5.59 BLT after the round. I don't know how they do it but I like those prices.

Hope all GK members had a safe and wonderful celebration this 4th of July.
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The "View" is shaping up folks! Hit a small bucket tested the practice green and let 'em fly at 8:03. Greens soft a bit slow, fairways lush mostly, helping slow that pesky river rol-out issue we all know about, tee boxes somewhat improving. Tree trimming and general grounds detail is evident, especially the old Eucalptus overhanging snag on the over the water hole #9! Never actually hit it but almost everyone I played with wished it was gone. Since I play here atleast once a month I have noticed small improvements with respect to clean-up and serious trimming. Not long before rates bump accordingly I suppose. Gotta ask, does anyone else play here, never see any reviews. 5 hrs to complete today Thursday. Fore!
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Played this morning. Like playing here often as it is an easy course to walk and the Sr rate of $18 is outstanding.

They keep this course in excellent shape for the amount of play it gets.

Not an overly long course by any means but the narrow fairways, trees, creek and water hazards will kill your score real quick.

Tee boxes clean and playable.

Fairways green with good lies and really nice rollout.

Traps are IMO the one thing that they could improve on. They are playable but some need some more sand and refreshing.

Rough is mostly all playable and not too penal.

Greens while not large or undulating have good speed and are always in good condition.

Nice driving range and putting green close to the 1st hole.

Great staff who runs this place.

Great course for all levels of players especially the older ones. LOL
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Played twilight on their ALL day Sr Wed rate of $34 w cart. Great deal and great course. Beautiful setting for twilight golf in the Napa valley.

Located on Hwy 12 going towards Napa in what they call American Canyon. Surrounded by vineyards. It was once 36 holes now down to 9. They turned 9 holes into wine vineyards and sold 9 holes to Eagle Vines next door and Johnny Miller added 9 more. Another great course.

I have yet to find a "hair" out of place at this course each time I play it. They keep it great shape.

Tee boxes great.

Fairways wide green and give great lies and very good rollout.

Rough is penal and so are the vineyards as they are all OB areas. Throw in some water holes, culverts, trees and various other OB areas and the round can go south real quick.

Traps are clean and people rake them and they are very playable. And large.

Greens are in top shape large undulating but chip/putt just great.

The par 3 holes here all great and challenging. And they have 6 of them. And 6 par 5's.

Excellent practice putting areas, large driving range. Carts very nice and allowed in parking lot.

Great customer service in the shop.

Highly recommended.
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Greens are still in disrepair and essentially not playable. Efforts to bring them back are admirable. But, they still have dirt spots, sand, are bumpy and where there is grass run slow because they can't be cut or rolled. Yet they are still charging full price for the rounds unless one buys a Palm Card where the rates are better. However, given condition of the greens it's not even worth the discounted Palm Card rate. What's most troubling is the arrogance of management who seems to think they are the only course in North County San Diego. Hopefully the greens will come back by the fall but until then, many other quality courses where management appreciates the business to play.
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