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Played today, 1/16 with a tee time around 9 am. POP around 5 hours to play 18. We had to wait on every hole to hit. It was very busy today being a holiday. But 5 hours to play 18 is about average POP for Wilson.

Course conditions today was the worse that I have ever seen. I would say course conditions are no more than a 4. You can still play here. It's winter conditions on the golf course here. Granted this is a city golf course and not a private golf course, so this course does take a beating.

I played the yellow tees today and the teeing area was ok. Tee boxes for the yellow had good coverage. I saw most groups were playing from the blues. Can't comment about the blues teeing area up close but it looked like coverage was ok.

Fairways had ok coverage from tee to green. Tho' there were lots of bare dirt patches (and mounds of dirt) on almost every fairway and mud trails from carts driving through the mud on the fairways. A lot of fairway lies were thin but I saw a lot of new growth from the recent rains we had. There were lots of areas roped off to steer you away from these mud patches on the fairways. You can still play and hit from the fairways. Fairways were very bumpy. Rough was deep in spots, muddy in other spots. It was very bumpy driving over the rough. Sand was just so so. I never did like the sand here.

Greens were in good condition. Balls were rolling about average. Not too fast and not too slow. Saw a lot of un-repaired ball marks but that's not the course's fault. I did notice that balls did bounce a little bit on the greens.

Don't care too much for the driving range. It's in bad condition but you're mostly here just to warm up here anyways on the driving range. Food is decent in the clubhouse. I like playing here once in a while. Will probably hold off playing here again until the spring.
Played 1-14-17 first out as a single walking in a little under three hours. Tee boxes were in good shape, mostly lush and level with a few being a little thin and un level mostly on three pars. Fairways were in nice shape very lush with a few small bare areas. Rough was not as long as normal but still thick and tough to hit from. Didn't go into any bunkers but most of them looked to be okay with some still holding some water from the rains. Greens were in great shape, the best that I have seen them in a while rolling smooth with medium/fast speed. The course held up very well from all the rain. Definitely worth going out and playing.
Played today, using the over 55 discount ($65, including cart). The course is in decent condition, with only one very saturated area just left of 17 green. As far as all the recent rains go, the course must drain rather well. The fairways and rough were mostly dormant Bermuda grass, cut low most everywhere. Great rollout on poorly hit tee shots, but tight lies as you approach most greens. Tees were mostly lush and level. Greens rolled fast and true with very subtle breaks. There was plenty of soft, white sand in the few bunkers I was in today. POP was about 4.5 hours, okay for a holiday of sorts (to paraphrase the previous reviewer). Go out and play, Monday and Tuesday are reduced rates for 55 years or older and nearby residents.
Played MLK Day, Mon Jan 16th. Tee time was 8:12am. Tee off around8:30. POP just under 5 hours. Not too bad for a holiday round. For non-Long Beach residents, its $67 to ride on Weekends and Holidays. While they keep the course nice, that is still pricy for a muni- just like Skylinks.
With the recent rains, it was Cart Path Only. Course was still crazy water logged. I'd say every hole had standing water. The greens and surrounding areas were dry and in great shape. The tee boxes were really nice to. Rough is very penal here, especially with the muddy, wet conditions. While we need the rain, it wrecks havoc on my golfing schedule, haha.
I'd recommend, but can't wait for the course to dry up. It will be nice.
Played in the Mens club tournament this weekend and the conditions were very soggy. The good news is the two lakes that were empty a month ago are now back to full including the one on hole 6 the lake has been empty for at least 2 years is now full to the brim and is visually pleasing.

The tees are back to good condition but unfortunately they were very mushy and the play might affect the condition after 2 days of play.

Fairways had good coverage and have softened up which is nice as the last time I played they were hard-panned. Holes nine and 18 were a little soggy from all the rain and even with the cart path only were taking some damage.

Greens were very soft and slow with many ball marks not being replaced and hole 18 had a second hole location that was not filled from a putting competition the previous day.

In all a fun course and I will continue to play I just hope they dont let the course dry out again like last year.
Finally got out to play this highly regarded and suggested course.


Easily in my personal top 3 public course I have ever played. from a course condition, it probably is in the top 2. We have seen the Golfweek note saying Rams Hill is the 3rd best public course in California behind only Pebble and Spyglass, well we have played both of those within the last year, and course condition-wise, it is FAR superior to Pebble... many reviews already, I can only say as a first timer I was blown away. Tee to green there is simply nothing out of place.

MUST play..

you suck it up and make the drive....

from lake forest it took us 2 hours and 35 mins. to get there and it is a really nice drive to just chill out and enjoy.

I would rate this in the 9.8 to 9.9 area....only reason not to give a 10 was "lack of GPS" and "no mayo on the club sandwich"

Hey Golf Digest - this course absolutely deserves to be in the Top 100 US public courses list for 2017 and TOP course list in California.
Played out here Saturday at 11:00 with wife and Gkers Donna & Willie.

first time for all of us here.

Very impressive resort course, the place is impressive as soon as you hit the range.
Here are the highlights:

1. all Grass range with expansive chipping, putting, and bunker area.
2. Very green course, fairways look a mile wide, but that is just an illusion, the fairways are actually fairly tight with wide rough sides that were quite deep on the day we played
3. Bunkers had all new sand and were perhaps even a bit too fluffy
4. Greens were simply perfect...smooth, and looked like the greens you would see at many of the PGA tournament courses.
5. Hole layout was a bit boring after a while...sort of all looked same.

no wind to speak of

all in all it was WELL worth the $45 each we paid.

I would recommend this as perhaps for a 2nd course to play during a stay and play weekend up in Borrego Springs.....obviously behind you-know-who
Played SJH on Sunday with a 11:12 tee time, $52 w.cart. Got around in 4:40 with more waiting on the front than the back. Found the course in decent shape considering the amount of rain, some soggy areas and puddling but nothing too serious and we did play L,C,&P and, wisely, it was CPO the entire course.

The Poa greens were the strong point today as most were very soft and spike marks were evident, but several were like perfect and rolled true at medium speed. Fairways the usual tight, matted stuff but with winter rules I had good lies all day. GS bunkers well taken care of but some of the FW bunkers were thrashed. Rough a bit long for SJH standards but easily playable.

Nice course for an occasional round, some back nine hole layouts are tight and challenging, so that's always fun. Great 19th hole.
Played Sunday as a single in roughly 3 1/4 hours, still very wet with lots of casual water (#1 now has a small water "hazard" short/right).

This is a "Good News/Bad News" review. Good news is it appears better than the last reviewer reported and it's clear they're trying to improve conditions. Bad news is they've got a LONG way to go.

Tees were mostly level but showed a significant amount of wear. I'll give them a pass on that because I was out quite early and they probably haven't moved the markers or mowed the areas due to recent rains (odd observation - #17, a par 3, was by FAR the best condition and had the least damage of any on the course). Fairways were hit and miss, many dirt areas but maybe 30% were in play for most players. Stray off the fairway and it ranges from bare ground to HEAVY growth - many trees alongside have recently been trimmed and the cuttings will swallow balls (you'd need a machete or small chain saw to start your search).

Greens were ok, most had some bare or thin areas - they held well struck shots with medium ball-mark damage. Speed was a little inconsistent - in general medium with some both slower and faster. Rolled true, there's a lot more break on most than you think. They're also relatively small so just hitting them is an accomplishment.

Bunkers were saturated so I can't mark them down for that - it looked and felt like they were a very heavy mix of dirt and sand.

The layout is not terribly exciting but it's a solid track with a decent mix of longer/shorter par 4's and you'll probably use at least 3 dfferent clubs on the four par 3's (not sure why #12 is so long since the typical golfer here would be hitting 3-wood or driver).

Service was good and very personable, if the person at the Pro Shop is any indication they really are trying to improve things.

As a low-cost alternative (especially when comparing weekend rates) it's worth a look but keep your expectations reasonable.
Not much to say after jyamastoker's review. Wet and soggy conditions out there right now, and some severely beat up tee boxes, including many roped off making Westchester play shorter than it already does. Lake is overflowing on #2 fairway, and many greens have plenty of soft ball marks everywhere. Bunkers looked wet and thick. Rough is nice - easy to play out of most times, and POP was a dream on a Sunday at just over three hours. Be in nice shape though once it dries out.
First off for twilight, cart paths only today, but POP was still OK at just under 4.5 hrs.
Fairways and rough are thick and full thanks to the rain, but could use a mow.
I wasn't in a trap, but some were hard wet sand and others looked OK.
Greens were in great shape, rolling well at medium speed with a few un-repaired ball marks.
Weather was a bit chilly and windy most likely keeping some away, but it has been busy lately.
Played Firecliff yesterday 1/14 at 8:00am. POP was exactly 4 hrs. 15 min. which is great, although it felt slower b/c my group and I waited on many holes. Course is in great shape, even with all of the rain recently. The greens were a little soft, but were all smooth. Fairways were perfect, with minimal divots. Rough was consistent with great coverage. Some tees had some divots (even par 4s). Proshop staff and cart-guys were great and we had a good time. Would like to come back here and have another shot at those greens!
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