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Sunday 10/21/18, 12:30pm tee time for us three. Nice day, maybe less than 5 mph wind, high 70s temp and it was a clear blue skies- couldn’t be a better day on a golf course.

The staff and the beverage cart were good and did their normal services as they pleased the patrons and guests.

It’s almost been a month since they’ve aerated the greens with the new process- looks like a big rounded cut but the core was left in- no holes. Then they’ve sanded the greens heavily. But as of today, the have not cut the greens low enough to make it smooth nor roll fast- the greens are wobbly and bumpy. One of our guys said, not too, too, bad, then retracted and said, not good either- which was more accurate descriptor. The fairways were a little on a soggy side. A number of fairways were reseeded and it’s cart paths only on those holes: #1, 9, 10, 15, & 17 (check the pro shop for accuracy of those holes). So those fairways are a
Bit hairy, but they’re coming around. I’m guessing in a week or so, they’ll be cutting.

The bunkers were fine, they had new fine sand in it. The teeing grounds were good and lush- some were also reseeded. The rough is up! ...and they’re lush- I hope they cut it soon. I’ll give it a couple of weeks before it gets good again.

The driving range is mats only on Monday through Wednesday and on soggy wet muddy grass on Thursdays through Sunday. Actually, I’d wait about another four weeks before I play it again.

Thanks.
2 Likes.
Saturday the 20th, October, about noon was when we tee’d off. It was breezy, but a nice clear day of mid 70s.

There was a twosome- a father and son who I was paired with. In front of us were a foursome who was fast in some holes but very slow with more than a few holes making it a 4 hours and 20 minutes round total- not that bad, but it didn’t help to see that there was no one in front of them for about 2 whole holes.

It was a busy day, there were a lot of people on the range and we see the carts making the turn from the ninth- the parking lot was almost full that day.

Their aeration was done more than a month ago and the course is looking good. The greens were rolling nicely and fast (thumbs up on that!). The fairways were also nice and lush but there’s a few areas that were over watered but it wasn’t much in play. The teeing grounds looks good, too. The bunkers looks like sand were added, but it was mixed with lots of gravel/pebbles (about the size of a penny- I didn’t care for it at all). The rough was tall in many areas that were not in play, but along both sides of the fairways, you can see that they’ve mowed it down nicely. So it was maybe 3 and 4 inches tall and boy it was lush and it made it a little difficult to find the ball much more getting out of it.

The guys at their pro shop are always good including the starter up at #1. The beverage cart came around at least three times.

So all in all the course is in good shape and it looks like it will only get better through the winter and we can definitely see many rounds here or at least this course will be a choice contender for the winter.

Good job Oak Valley GC!!
3 Likes.
Was in the area on Saturday and wanted to give this course a try. Got out around 9 on Saturday at what looked like a pretty busy time. They were doing split tees starting and we started on 10. Not sure why maybe they had a tournament going at the same time. Course is in really good shape.

Tees boxes were a little beat up but plenty of places to put a tee. Fairways were nice and lush with almost no brown or hard pan spots. Rough was thick and made you work to make a good shot. Wasn’t in a bunker but they looked very playable. Greens were nice and lush and showed subtle signs of punching. Speed was good but they were to bumpy for me and maybe need to be cut and rolled.

Pace was good for first 9 about 2:15 but the other 9 (front) slowed to a crawl. Took over an hour to play four holes. I could not handle the pace and left around the sixth hole. I saw to many groups out of position in front of us including one group which was a hole behind the pace. No Marshall on the course that I saw at least.

$60 for a weekend round is a good deal and would definitely give the course another try!
5 Likes.
Was invited by some friends to play Brookside on 10/19. The traffic from my house getting there is always a challenge for a morning tee time–an hour and 15 minutes but it has been a while since I have played here so I was really looking forward to it. Had a 9:00 am tee time and got off pretty much on time. The place was packed. Activity everywhere. UCLA was playing Arizona at the Rose Bowl the next night so you can see they were getting prepared for the event. In fact my friends who I played with, work for the Rose Bowl and after our round, they had to set up near the 10th green an area for Arizona tail gaiting.

We started out on the back 9 and I found the course in just ok condition. Know that when there is a football game or concert, they use the fairways as overflow parking and it shows. Many bare spots out there. That’s the way it is this time of year. The rough was beat up kikuyu. The bunkers were in really good condition. Good, firm sand. The tee boxes were recently aerated so they will need some time to recover. The pace moved along just fine. We didn’t wait on anyone so it was just under 4 hours.

The greens were in good shape however. Sneaky fast. I say that because they didn’t appear to be cut down but yet they rolled very nice. No complaints about the greens.

Played the blues and found it to be a real challenge. Long! The blues played around 6800 yds. and it seemed longer as the wind picked up.

Brookside #1 is a fun course to play. Really nice setting with the Rose Bowl right next door. I have seen Brookside in much better condition but always recommend playing here. Just know that some of fairways won’t be at their best.
7 Likes.
Played today Saturday 10/20 with a tee time before noon. POP was around 2 1/2 hours to play 9. It was a little slow today as there was a group ahead playing a tournament. But it was not bad. It was very windy when we played. It was nice that on some holes your balls got extra distance for hitting downwind.

Overall the course is in decent shape. Tho' we noticed as we got to the course that parts of the fairways were painted a different color green than the fairways. My white glove had green streaks on it from holding my golf balls after playing with them. The fairways had fairly good coverage that you can still play on. Some of the areas in front of the tee boxes were looking a little dry, a little bare and a little thin. The tee boxes were ok.

The bunkers were a little hard packed and a little wet but you can still hit out of the bunkers. The greens were in really good condition. I can only remember that one green was in so-so shape. Greens were rolling a little fast.

This is an interesting 9 hole golf course. It is not flat. There's 3 par 3s, 1 or 2 par 5s and the rest were par 4s. Hole #7 had a severe dogleg with a palm tree in your way if you decide to cut the corner. There's a driving range here, a small chipping area, and a putting green. It's a great place to play and practice.
4 Likes.
Played this morning at 7:15 as a 3some surrounded by 4somes. Pace wasn’t an issue right at 4:15. There was a “slow” group out there but since they were on pace the marshal said he couldn’t do anything.

Course conditions are pretty poor right now with the exception of the greens. Greens are great. Rolled fast but there are many ball marks both new and old. Really the highlight. Not as firm as they have been but that was probably too firm.

All tee boxes have been moved up. When I mean moved up this was playing more like the gold tees. Also they need more time for the ocerseeding. The grass is growing but more is needed and they need to be cut.

This is true for the fairways as well. It is way too long. Sometimes I had trouble telling where the rough began and the fairway ends.

Sand was good. Actually holed out because there was actual sand to make the proper shot. Crazy concept.

Not worth it right now and I hope it’s not this way until the farmers in January. By the way the south looks completely baked out in preparation for the overseeding this coming week.
5 Likes.
Was 2nd off yesterday and cruised around in 3 1/2 hours. We were 3, there was a 2some behind us so it wasn’t busy at all out there. Rat’s review is spot on. Greens are pretty good. They are not going to wow you with speed but balls did stay on line with the occasional ball mark that needed to be repaired. Still dead areas out there which made for some difficult shots. I did see what Rat was talking about with the tee boxes. Looks like they have been marked. I wasn’t sure if that was for the mowers or how they redo the tee boxes. There was a new one on 10 which is a little further back. I did think the tee boxes needed to be cut but there were mowers out there hopefully they got them done. They were a little long for my taste. Overall enjoyable.
5 Likes.
Bigdana just reviewed Rancho Park after playing there yesterday in the morning while I played a twilight round, but his words are pretty spot on. My 'home' course is in a pretty poor state right now overall and could use a little time off for maintenance.

Got a cart and played the blue tees for around $35, so at least the price was not outrageous for what we got. Was paired with three other singles who were all very nice and turned out to be the best part of the day - thanks Tiffany, Cliff and Yong! But we were all a little miffed off the bat by seeing the first two greens and some dried out fairways.

Many of the greens have some serious damage, including sand filling in dry patches, bumps everywhere, and some areas that should seriously be GUR. They were bumpy, inconsistent speeds and at minimum held decent shots. But overall, pretty terrible - maybe the worst condition I've ever seen them here. Sad.

Fairways not much better with loads of thin lies and dry areas, but you will find the occasional lush spot. Chipping around the greens always an adventure with so many balls finding dried out divots that affected shots and just an overall poor quality. The rough was slightly better for many of the shots and was often glad to be off the fairways if the line to the green was still good.

Bunkers were good, actually - at least the ones I found myself in at times. Not exactly fluffy, but more than serviceable. And the tee boxes? Again, pretty rough shape. They could definitely use better coverage and a little flattening. Rancho Park definitely not in its best state right now. Not even close.

No cart service all afternoon and the water fountains are mostly a broke-down joke. They really need a little bit of a sprucing up here and need it fast. The only salvation is the great snack shop between the 11th and 12th holes - everything you need to get you back on track.

POP felt longer than the five hours it took as we actually did a little more waiting than I have in recent visits to Rancho. I'm hoping this is more an anomaly than standard future practice.

Everyone knows the layout story at Rancho Park so I won't bother you with those details, however I will STILL let everyone know that the right side of the driving range fence needs to be higher and better quality so finding your ball on the 18th approach isn't always such a dumb adventure. Other than all that though, it's swell! Seriously though, it'll be a while before this track is required playing. Hope they get it sorted soon.
8 Likes.
One of the best layouts in Los Angeles but in poor condition. POP was good at 7am on a Friday but the conditions all around are poor. Tee areas are uneven, fairways are bad and so are the greens. Rolling about 7 and bumpy. Couldn't help noticing the locals I was playing with disrespecting their own course and not repairing ball marks or divots. Pretty sad to see this at one of my past favorites. If I were LA I would keep a look out for these kind of players and ban them.
6 Likes.
Played with sixpez and Nickesquire Thursday morning. Was my first time playing Terra Lago after all these years. It pleasantly surprised me. I knew not to expect excellent playing conditions typical of the higher end Palm Springs golf courses which I have been accustomed to playing. Also the South golf course was fresh out of overseeding. What surprised me was how interesting, challenging and flat out fun the layout was. As a first time player that loves shot value, this course is loaded with them. Risk/reward tee shots, intimidating bunkers, lots of doglegs, forced carries over water, tough green complexes, hazards on both sides of every hole, elevated tee shots, a fantastic signature par 3 … a blast.

As far as conditions, very good. Interestingly is after the round I talked with the Superintendent who informed me the greens are not overseeded with rye but rather poa. That they are tiff bermunda surfaces that do well the majority times of the year but need a cool grass added for winter play. This explains why the greens rolled so well. They are basically all bermunda with some poa sprouting through. I was told the greens right now are as slow as they get and to expect them to gradually become faster and firmer. Makes me want to head back there for sure. With all those undulations and tricky pins, must be diabolically fun when they are running faster.

Fairways in very good shape mostly lush with some thin spots. Rough mostly lush greenside and adjacent to the fairways with occasional thin/bare areas. Bunkers, well groomed but in many cases very firm and depleted of quality sand. Fairway bunkers overall in poorer shape than the greenside bunkers. I did find a couple in decent shape and got used to the firm texture. Tee boxes in very good shape with exception to the gold tees on the 17th hole.

Service was friendly and excellent all day. After the round I grabbed a bite to eat in the restaurant. Decent burger with tasty fries and great view of the signature holes on the North Course.

Overall, I’d play the South Course again and want to try the North Course. If the track was manicured better and in the kind of conditions of a PGA WEST, Desert Willow Golf Resort or Indian Wells Golf Resort the layout would be on par with most of those playing experiences. Granted the courses I mentioned do have higher levels of service and amenities but my point is this place has great bones with a ton of upside potential. It looks to be moving in a positive direction. CHECK OUT the photos I just posted. Recommended.
9 Likes.
OK time flies. 7 years since I played here last (why - maybe traffic coming home). Played this morning in 3 H. We took advantage of the weekend Sr deal ($29). Greens were punched on 8/9 of this month and are still healing. Some of them are better than others and those had good putting speed, but I think at least another week? But overall, they were all playable. We found the tee boxes all clean and playable. No issues with any fairways, as they had roll out and great lies, all round. In one trap and no issues and heard none from others. Did not find much rough, but there are enough OB areas to compensate, should you get way off the fairway. Not to mention the lakes that can come into play. Customer service was excellent at all levels. Glad to revisit here, as I totally enjoyed the course and the layout. Recommended and we will be going back, before 7 years, for sure.
8 Likes.
Played Thursday 10/18. It was a grueling POP of slightly over 5 hours. Other than that the course was in good condition. The greens were medium fast and recovered well from aeration.

The Players side was busy as they are aerating the Classic Course this week.
5 Likes.
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