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Played the blues (6018/68.8/122) in slightly more than 5H on a Golf Now deal for $30 that included a cart. Today made me remember REAL quickly why I usually avoid weekend and holiday golf. The POP was brutal!

The greens putt nice. They were smooth, VERY firm and many greens have moderate to VERY severe slopes/breaks. However, they were medium slow today and looked like they plain need more WATER. The greens are definitely the best and most challenging part of the course. 7/10

The fairways and rough were decent, a little dry but good overall. Many areas looked like they needed a good watering. 6/10

The tees were fair, they could use some work. 5/10

The sand traps were fair, they had very fine sand but were mediocre overall. 5/10

The layout is decent, there are numerous fun holes. Their signature hole is #12, a 184 yard severely downhill par 3 where the green is 186 feet lower than the tee. After previously going over into the red hazard when I played it 2 clubs short, today I hit wedge almost pin high. I normally hit my wedge 130-135 to show you how downhill this is. A negative is that for this hole only, you tee off on mats. I presume because the tees are in a heavily wooded area, that they could not keep grass growing there?

#15 is the hardest 512 yard par 5 I have ever played. Tee shot coming out of a narrow opening with OB left, thick trees right and a yellow hazard running across the fairway 200+ yards out from the blue tees. After the tee shot, the hole doglegs 90 degrees left & plays severely uphill for the final 250 yards with OB left and big trees all around. The green has so much slope from back to front that you can have side hill putts with 20' of break, and it can be almost impossible to keep a ball on the green from above the hole. I have played this hole three times and went 7-8-7 on it?

The greens (along with many tall trees) are definitely the main defense of this course, Some of the short par 4's and short par 5's look like birdie holes on the scorecard and from the approach shot... until you get up to and see the green. Holes 2,4,6,11,12,15,16 & 17 in particular have very sloping greens from back to front or from side to side that can produce some downhill putts impossible to stop near the hole unless you make it. There also have a couple of greens that are among the smallest greens I have ever played on a regulation course.

They have a very nice clubhouse and a restaurant onsite that I did not try. The snack cart came by twice, but there are only a few water stations on the course. Carts are older, no GPS, which would be beneficial here, because the course is NOT well marked for yardages. They have cement stones in the center of the fairways @ 100/150/200 that have not been repainted in awhile and are often hard to see from even 20 yards away.

Fun little course about 45 minutes SE of Portland, but not one you would pass by other courses or drive very far to come play.
4 Likes.
First time playing the North course here. 37-35 par 72 layout, five par 5's and five par 3's. Played the blues (6344/71.7/128) and got in 27 holes in 6H, so POP was good, 2 hour 9's. $49 w a cart off their course website internet special.

They have a unique rotating system @ the Reserve. Their two courses change every 15 days between public and private, so the members always have a private course and 36 holes to choose from on a monthly basis. The 2 courses as a whole are top notch, clearly in the upper echelon of places to play around Portland. Definitely one of my favorite all-time places to play.

Both courses have a double green shared by 2 holes and both are immaculately maintained. However, that is about where the similarity ends.

The South course is a more traditional style layout with around 150 bunkers total. The South is longer, more demanding, has more hazards, has many more holes with trees down one or both sides plus overall more tight holes. If that's not enough, the South also has more severe, undulating greens than the North in my opinion.

The North course is more of a links style course, few trees and the tee shot landing areas were pretty generous on most holes. Two of the short par 4's I hit 3 iron off the tee, other than that, there was no question that I was hitting driver on every other par 4 & par 5. Most of the greens are elevated with run-offs on some or all sides. The North greens I did not find to be as undulating as the South greens are. Many holes on the North have mowed down collection areas and large mounds you have to putt, chip, pitch or lob over or around. Not that many sand traps, I was not in any in 27 holes. I average close to a trap every 2.7 holes on the South, and while I'm trying to be funny, I'm also serious.

I would guestimate that the South is at least 2 strokes tougher than the North. While the North course is tougher than average, it's still a notch or two below the South on the difficulty scale. It's my understanding that many of their members prefer the North, probably for a combination of the reasons stated above.

The two courses @ the Reserve are SO different, yet both are immaculately maintained. I agree 100% with Ed Lee's previous Reserve North write-up, I'll take The Reserve over Pumpkin Ridge every day of the week!

It has rained up here several days this week, so the conditions were lush and soft. The greens looked great, and they were smooth. However, they putted medium/slow. They held approach shots great, almost too well @ times. The traps looked to be well maintained even though I wasn't in any. The tees were lush and well maintained.

Both the fairways and rough were very lush and well maintained. Not too many divots, didn't have a bad lie AD except when I got in the deep stuff. Speaking of which, this is a links style course. So there are traditional areas on almost every hole that is ankle to calf to knee deep that you plain HAVE to avoid. 75% chance lost ball, and on the 25% chance you find your ball, it's a toss-up whether it's an unplayable lie or MAYBE you can whack a wedge out and advance it somewhat.

Their cart gal was around 3-4 times, and the customer service from the pro shop, to the starter to the guy who cleans your clubs when you return the cart are all ++.

I thought the North plays like a better maintained and slightly less demanding version of one of my all-time favorite courses, Olivas Links in So Cal. It was a funner course to play than the South, which I have found to be one of the most demanding tracks in the Portland area.

After playing the North today, I have now played and photoed every public course in the Portland area listed on GK. Overall, I have been pleasantly surprised with both the quality and quantity of the golf courses in NW Oregon after moving here from So Cal 18 months ago. Affordability = good, POP is usually much better, less golfers per course and the conditions from May-September = very good compared to So Cal courses. I have to experience more winter golf up here before I can comment there, but the summer season up here is exceptional!
5 Likes.
The course is in very good to excellent condition overall. Recent rains have perked this place back up to it's normal green lushness. Utilized an e-mail coupon they sent me to get a discounted $29 internet rate on their website and teed off a little after 3pm. Walked the blues (6522/71.9/132) in 5H, 15M and lost 2 balls on 18 trying to finish in darkness? There was a tournament ahead of us that was woefully slow, we waited on every tee and approach shot AD. To their credit, several different Langdon staffers tried numerous times to speed those guys up, but they were uncooperative. The pro shop came out and offered our entire group a "rain check" for another round, which I will take them up on. Their always excellent customer service just went to exceptional in my book with that gesture.

The greens were smooth, firm and medium fast to fast. Very few ball marks.

The tees and fairways were lush and had greened up with the recent rains. The 1st cut of rough was lush and not too penal. However, you have to avoid the native rough, which can be very punitive.

The traps were in excellent shape, well maintained with medium color fluffy sand.

They include a small bag of range balls with your green fee, which is a nice touch. The customer service in the pro shop & with the starter have been ++ every time I have played here. The on course beverage service came by at least twice, and they also have an excellent restaurant onsite.

Langdon Farms is a different experience locally in that it doesn't utilize tall trees as a defense nearly as much as other courses in the Portland area. To play well here, you need to keep it in play, avoid some large bunkers and be able to chip and putt on fast, undulating greens. Numerous greens have collection areas that are mowed down on one or more sides that leaves the golfer with options of a putter to a lob wedge on many shots from off the green up and over mounds to slick greens often running away from you. Overall, a challenging, fun course. Other than the slowness, excellent day, I was having one of my better rounds here today, wish we could have finished.
3 Likes.
Walked the blues (68.8/123/6157) in 3h, 45m on a Sunday afternoon Golf Now rate of $22.

Glendoveer is an older, shorter course in NE Portland that gets a ton of play, many of which are novice or high handicap golfers. Unique layout, par 73 with five par 5's and four par 3's.

I like the layout, it's fun. A couple of par 4's that are potentially driveable for longer hitters. The fairways are tree lined with huge mature trees. A decent assortment of open, tight and a couple of very tight holes. Not that many water hazards or OB holes, but plenty of places in the trees to lose a ball if you get crooked. Considering that it's in the city, there were almost NO houses visible along the course, and there is a walking/running trail that loops around the outer edge of the course.

While the layout was fun, the course conditions were not fun. The greens were soft, a bit bumpy, slow & I averaged fixing about a half dozen ball marks per green, and that was just just around my ball or in my line. I never did get their speed down.

The tees were in fair shape & many had severe divot damage that needed repair.

The fairways were at best fair, many of them had alot of divot damage. There were numerous places in many fairways that looked like they had inserted "plugs" of grass to try and regrow the bad browned/hardpan areas, w/o alot of success to this point.

The rough was generally mowed down and semi-lush, you usually could make good contact on shots out of the rough. There were also large areas of hardpan under the huge trees that lined both sides of every hole.

The sand was very well maintained, and I was in 6 traps total, so I should know. The traps were by far the best maintained part of the course.

They have a driving range off mats, clubhouse, pro shop, snack bar and highly rated restaurant on site. Customer service in the pro shop & with the starter was a ++.

This course is questionable, and it's in a questionable section of town. Last time I played here, I stopped beforehand at a fast food place about 2 miles away and provided 2 separate witness statements to police during a 45 minute lunch. First, a homeless guy went off in the restaurant & was threatening people. Then just a few minutes after the police left, there was an armed robbery in the parking lot about 20 yards from where I was eating lunch?

A recent, out of town GK reviewer rated this course an 8.48 and spoke of country club like conditions? We will just have to agree to disagree, I have played app. 25 courses this summer, and this was the worst conditioned course I have played. I could not recommend this course, there are numerous local courses close by that are better to MUCH better.
5 Likes.
1st time playing here, fun, quirky little course, VERY hilly. Numerous holes are tight, and there is alot of slope on several fairways that needs to be factored into your aim on your tee shot.

Walked the blues (5853/68.9/124) in 4 hours, teeing off slightly after 7am on their standard weekday walking rate of $25.

The greens were very good to excellent. Smooth, medium fast and FIRM. I was finally getting the speed and firmness down the last few holes. These greens are relatively small and they have alot of break. On numerous greens, you BETTER be below the hole. Also, because the greens are small, it's easy to short side yourself. You also have a decent amount of blind approach, pitch or chip shots because numerous holes are severely uphill or the green is severely elevated.

Both the fairways and rough were good to very good, well maintained.

The tees were at best average, they definitely could use some divot fix attention.

I wasn't in any sand, but it looked to be well maintained.

The course has five par 5's and five par 3's. The layout is very fun. You also have six par 4's that are short, with none of the ten par 4's measuring over 360 yards.

Of the short par 4's... #5 is only 262, and you have five more between 302 & 323. However, none are going to be driven very often, because:

#2 & #11 are both severely uphill, dogleg right holes over a lake with huge trees in the way if you wanted to go @ the green from the tee.

#5 & #9 are both straight away. However both have severely elevated greens with several bunkers on the hill in front of small, sloping greens. #5 also has a lateral water hazard just left of the green and woods just right of the green.

#10 is a severely downhill, dogleg right hole with a lake left and a lateral water hazard close to the green with huge trees in the way that completely block the green from the tee.

#17 turns slightly to the left and has bushes and woods left and huge trees right. If you carry it super long, you could go over the hazard on the left and go right @ the green.

All the par 3's were fun holes. After every severely uphill par 4 came a straight down the hill par 3. Three of the par 3's were severely downhill, one was uphill, and only one of the five was relatively flat.

I would have scored really well today IF I had played the five par 5's decently. While they are not long, several are tight, with very narrow openings if you try to reach the green in two. All have water hazards that are a combination of across the fairway, beside the fairway or in front of the green. I found the par 5's to be the toughest holes on the course, and it was irrelevant that they barely average 500 yards (541, 525, 467, 479 & 498) from the back tees. Tight, sloped with lots of trouble all around. The one that is just 467 yards has 2 different creeks that run across the fairway about 175 yards apart to make it play longer than the yardage indicates. I had a 6I into the one that is just 479 yards downhill... and it was a questionable go for in 2 because if you missed left, your ball is gone in waist deep bushes/trees. I barely missed right, and it rode the slope all the way down the hill into a hazard. You have at most a 15 yard wide opening to a severely elevated, small and sloping green, anything pushed or pulled is gone.

Only negatives: There was no beverage/snack cart service and the driving range is irons only, off mats.

However, the positives were plentiful: Customer service was a ++, very friendly in the pro shop. VERY fun course, For those of you in So Cal, this course reminds me of Elkins Ranch with much better greens. It's a hike from my home, well out on the NW side of Portland. Because of the distance, I'll only rarely play here. However, if it were closer, I wouldn't mind coming here every so often to provide a break from the usually longer, 132-140+ slope courses that are my favorites in the greater Portland area.
4 Likes.
Teed off @ 241pm on their standard internet twillight rate of $33 to walk with Kviser. We walked the blues (6522/71.9/132) in 4 hours, 40 minutes on a hot, sunny afternoon.

The course is in very good to excellent condition overall. The greens were smooth, firm and medium fast to fast.

The tees and fairways were generally lush with a few scattered brown areas. There was a tournament going on when we teed off, and there seemed to be an inordinate amount of fresh divots in many fairways.

The 1st cut of rough was lush and not too penal. However, on many holes, you don't have to stray far to get into the native rough, which can be very punitive. The good news is that there are now areas that were very lush & deep a few months ago that have dried out that you can now play out of, or at least find your ball.

The traps were in excellent shape, well maintained with mostly fluffy sand.

This course doesn't utilize tall trees as a defense nearly as much as other local courses in the Portland area. So the style is certainty different from other area courses. The good is that at least 16 or 17 of the 18 holes are good to excellent golf holes.

Now that I have seen this course several times, it's time to comment on the course design. I like to see if my opinion changes whenever I see a "different" type hole several times before I am overly critical.

Seven holes on the back 9 are on the other side of the road which almost makes them a course within a course. Those holes are generally more wide open than the eleven holes on the other side.

In spite of 11 holes on one side and 7 holes on the other side of a road, the overall course design could be great with 2 changes.

1- Add another par 5. I generally dislike courses that only have three par 5's, especially when two of them are among the hardest holes on the course.

2- #6 is an exception to the good or excellent designed holes on the rest of the course. It is a short par 3 with a severely elevated green that has collection areas all around the green. The slope of the green and especially the slope going down to the collection areas make this a hole that needs to be redesigned in my opinion. Difficult to hold the green even with a high sand wedge, if you land within 10-12' of the greens edge almost anywhere on the green, there is a 50-50 chance you will end up 30' to 40' off the green in a collection area. Once there, putting, chipping or trying to lob a shot up/over a 10' tall hill mowed down close to a green that is narrow, humpbacked and often running away from the golfer... the only thing missing is the clown's legs to try and putt through, this looks like a hole you would see on a miniature golf course once you get up around the green. The design mentality of taking a very short hole & trick up the green to make up for it's shortness = a poor golf hole. They have plenty of land behind the current green to lengthen #6 if they wanted to and put in a legitimate green. This hole just seems out of place design wise on this particular course. Don't get me wrong, this is one of the best public courses to play in the greater Portland area, and few courses have all 18 holes that I would consider to be very good to excellent golf holes. But this hole is just SO much worse than whatever the 2nd poorest hole on this course is, and it is not even close!

To score here, you need to keep it in play and be able to chip and putt on fast, undulating greens. Many greens other than #6 also have collection areas that are mowed down on one or more sides that leaves the golfer with lots of chips or putts from off the green up and over mounds to slick greens often running away from you.

Overall, a challenging, fun course. The customer service in the pro shop & with the starter have been ++ every time I have played here. They include a small bag of range balls with your green fee, which is a nice touch. The on course beverage service came by at least twice, and they also have an excellent restaurant onsite.
6 Likes.
First time playing here. Picked up Kviser from the airport fresh out of So Cal. We had lunch halfway to the course, then drove over and walked the blues (6386/72.0/139) in 4.5 hours on a prepaid GolfNow deal for $59.

Beautiful course, very challenging layout, not as tight as I expected. I hit one 3 iron and one 3 wood off the tee, otherwise I felt comfortable with driver on the par 4's and par 5's. #9 & #18 are both signature type holes. They are both well over 400 yard par 4's with lakes guarding the front and one side of the green. Numerous holes have diagonal yellow hazards that run across the fairways, making accurate yardage measurements very important on club selection. I attribute the 139 slope from the blues to the thick rough, specifically the lost ball type native rough, the severity of the greens and especially the sight lines... All the diagonal yellow hazards running @ 60 or 70 degrees through numerous fairways is something most golfers rarely encounter, and here it is about every 3rd or 4th hole.

The greens were firm, smooth, medium fast and putted well. They are big for the most part, undulating and you need to get the ball on the right tier of several greens, or it's a likely 3 putt. 9/10.

The sand traps were very well maintained with thick, fluffy sand and well trimmed around the lips. 9/10.

The fairways were mowed close, the ball really ran on several fairways. However, many had "hot spots" where the grass was discolored and obviously needed watering. You usually had good lies, not fluffy lies, but not tight either. 7/10.

The rough is thick and usually lush. It is punitive, you cannot hit longer clubs out of this stuff. The native areas are calf to knee deep, an almost sure lost ball or unplayable lie. The rough around the greens is very punitive. I rolled through 18 green 3 inches into the rough green side and could barely advance the ball onto the green for fear of getting too much ball out of the deep stuff and going into the lake just on the other side of the pin. 8/10.

The tees were well maintained, I liked the way the grass was cut close. Several had hot spots and a decent amount of divot damage, but were very good to excellent overall. 8/10.

To me, great course, loved the layout overall. However, this course still isn't worth the $90 - $125 they charge @ full rack rate to walk, but it is well worth playing if you can get a deal.
7 Likes.
Played all three 9's with Longtee400 on a prepaid Golf Now Deal for $49 which included a $10 lunch voucher. We teed off @ 951am and played in 6 hours total playing time. We finished around 5pm with an hour lunch break splitting things up, so POP was very good for 27 holes, basically 2 hour 9's, we rarely waited AD.

Nice clubhouse where the customer service from the pro shop, to the starter to the cart gal was top notch. I was especially impressed that they offered to accommodate my adult son visiting from out of town rehabbing from a recent surgery with a golf cart as he played spectator for 27 holes.

On this golf course, the condition of all three 9's is immaculate. The overall course conditions & spectacular views make this place definitely worth playing in spite of an overall average layout. I say average because there are too many par 4's & par 5's that are lay-up holes for longer hitters unless you can really thread the needle. A few in 27 holes = a good variety, but when it's approaching a double figure amount of holes out of 27, I have to downgrade the course layout. And I am an aggressive player, when I am telling you these are lay-up holes, trust me, they are lay-up holes!

These are EASILY some of the best and smoothest greens I have putted on recently. The greens are medium fast, smooth and firm, they putted very well with few ball marks. I rarely had a straight putt AD, but I also rarely had a putt with an abundant amount of break. You constantly were tested with 3 to 5 footers that you had to play outside the hole. 9/10.

The traps were very well maintained with fluffy sand. 9/10.

There is not alot of rough here, what rough they have is generally lush and well maintained. 1/2 shot penalty, difficult to hit more than a middle iron out of. The reason that there isn't that much rough to rate is because if you miss the fairway by more than 5-7 yards on a good percentage of the holes, you are in a hazard or out of bounds. 8/10.

The fairways were generally lush and well maintained. 8/10.

The tees were recently aerated & top dressed today with sand, which did not affect their play ability, just the way they looked. The tees on Pine Cone #5 are artificial turf because they are cut well back in the woods where there is rarely enough sun to grow grass. Makes for a neat looking tee shot coming out of the tree lined darkness into the sun drenched fairway. 7/10.

Played the Foxglove first (par 36, 3066 from the blues). I did not use a wood the entire 9. The first hole is a short, fairly tight par 4. However, #1 was probably the most wide open hole on the entire 9. Nearly every hole was about 40 yards across from hazard to hazard, you had about a 30 yard wide fairway with 5 yards of rough on each side and then it was either OB or a red staked hazard where your ball is just gone, calf to knee deep sticker bushes. With every hole being very narrow, with hazards down both sides of the hole from tee to green and behind the green, this is by FAR my least favorite of their three 9's. But I have to admit, I liked it better than the first time I played here last week after seeing all the holes beforehand.

Next played the Thistle (par 34, 2786 from the blues). Definitely the most wide open of the three nines, but it is still FAR from wide open. Three par 3's and only one par 5, which normally I don't care for, but this is a fun nine holes to play.

Finished up with the Pine Cone (par 36, 3173 from the blues). While it had some very tight holes, I finally got to use a driver on almost all par 4's & par 5's. Finally had a few holes w/o hazards down both sides and behind the green. Good mixture of holes, more up down and several holes turned more than moderately. Instead of hazards down down sides, you got a reprieve on one side of many holes... if you call 50' to 100' tall trees from tee to green a reprieve. It was more interesting and playable in my opinion. Close call over the Thistle, but probably my favorite of the three 9's.

They only have nets to warm up on, no driving range. Two putting greens. Nice clubhouse and an excellent grill/restaurant that is priced about what you would expect @ a golf course.

The cart gal came around numerous times, which was good, because there are not any water stations on the 27 holes. They also supplied 2 bottles of water per cart, which was a nice touch.

Unless you are laser straight, this course as a whole plays longer than the score card yardages seemingly indicate because there are many holes where a lay-up (position shot) is the prudent play. I had many holes with much longer clubs left into the green than you would expect if you just looked at the scorecard yardages. You would be deceived into thinking that this is a short course with many wedges into short par 4's and reachable par 5's. If you can hit a driver 270+ and keep it in a 30 yard wide fairway with hazards barely beyond the fairway on both sides of many holes, then it could be. However, I personally would probably incur about a dozen penalty strokes on these 27 holes if I used driver on every par 4 and par 5.
5 Likes.
Played the blues (6018/68.8/122) in slightly less than 4H on a prepaid Golf Now deal for $16.99 that included a cart. Carts are older, no GPS, which would be beneficial here, because the course is NOT well marked for yardages. They have cement stones in the center of the fairways @ 100/150/200 that have not been repainted in awhile and are often hard to see from even 20 yards away.

The greens putt nice. They are smooth, medium fast to fast, firm and many greens have moderate to VERY severe slopes/breaks. The greens (along with many tall trees) are the teeth of this course, some of the short par 4's and short par 5's look like birdie holes on the scorecard and from the approach shot... until you get up to and see the green. Holes 2,11,12,15,16 & 17 in particular have very sloping greens from back to front that can produce some downhill putts impossible to stop near the hole unless you make it and even worse, side hill putts with 5, 10, even 20 FEET of break. There also have a couple of greens that are some of the smallest I have ever played on a regulation course. The greens are definitely the best and most challenging part of the course.

The fairways and rough were decent, a little dry but good overall.

The tees were fair to good, they could use some work.

The sand traps were fair, they did not look like they were regularly maintained.

The layout is OK. Their signature hole is #12, a 184 yard severely downhill par 3 where the green is 186 feet lower than the tee. I played it 2 clubs short, should have guessed 3, my 8 iron that sailed over the green into the red hazard (sticker bushes) was my only penalty shot AD.

They have a very nice clubhouse and a restaurant onsite that I did not try. No drink or snack cart and only a few water stations on the course.

Fun little course about 45 minutes SE of Portland, but not one you should drive by other courses or come very far to play.
4 Likes.
First time here, played all three 9's on a prepaid Golf Now Deal for $49 which included a $10 lunch voucher. Played the blues in 5.5 hours, so POP was great for 27 holes, rarely waited AD.

The clubhouse was hard to find, it's part of an all season resort that hides among rental and private condo's plus upscale single family homes. Once you find it, you will be treated to a golf course where the condition of the three courses is immaculate.

The greens are medium fast, smooth and firm, they putted very well with few ball marks. I rarely had a straight putt AD, yet I also rarely had a putt with an abundant amount of break. You constantly were tested with 3 to 5 footers that you had to play outside the hole. 9/10.

The traps were well maintained with fluffy sand. 8/10.

There is not alot of rough here, what rough they have is lush and well maintained. 1/2 shot penalty, difficult to hit more than a middle iron out of. The reason that there isn't alot of rough is because if you miss the fairway by more than 5-7 yards on a good percentage of the holes, you are in a hazard or out of bounds. 8/10.

The fairways were lush and well maintained. However, numerous fairways were almost over watered and had soggy areas. 7/10.

While the conditions were top notch, I can't be nearly as generous in my praise of the layout. Let's go nine by nine...

Played the Foxglove first (par 36, 3066 from the blues). I never used a wood the entire 9. The first hole was a short, fairly tight par 4. Little did I know that #1 was probably the most wide open hole on the entire 9. Every hole was about 40 yards across from hazard to hazard, you had about a 30 yard wide fairway with 5 yards of rough on each side and then it was either OB or a red staked hazard that your ball was gone, calf to knee deep sticker bushes. I only seriously considered driver on 1 hole, and had to lay up there because there was a lake app. 250 out. Even if there had not been a lake, it was still a marginal call to not use an iron off that tee as well. If you like bumping it down the fairway hole after hole, then this is the nine for you. The surrounding are certainty beautiful and the condition was immaculate. However, I personally don't care to hit 3I, then another 3I and a 5I into a long par 5. With every hole being very narrow, with hazards down both sides of the hole from tee to green and behind the green, this was by FAR my least favorite nine.

Next played the Pine Cone (par 36, 3173 from the blues). While it had some very tight holes, I finally got to use a driver on several holes. Finally had a few holes w/o hazards down both sides and behind the green. Good mixture of holes, more up down and several holes turned more than moderately. Instead of hazards down down sides, you got a reprieve on one side of many holes... 50' to 100' tall trees from tee to green. It was more interesting and playable in my opinion. Probably my favorite of the three nines even though I did not play well on it.

Finished up with the Thistle (par 34, 2786 from the blues). Definitely the most wide open of the three nines, but it was still FAR from wide open. Three par 3's and only one par 5, which normally I don't care for, but this was a fun nine holes to play.

Unless you are laser straight, this course as a whole plays longer than the yardages seemingly indicate because it is lay-up, lay-up, lay-up. I had many holes with 150-210 yards left into the green where if you just looked at the scorecard yardages, you would think short course with alot of wedges into greens.

The course conditions & spectacular views make this place worth playing in spite of an overall mediocre layout. Easily the smoothest greens I have putted on recently. Customer service was a ++. They only have nets to warm up on, no driving range. Two putting greens. Nice clubhouse and an excellent, even if over priced grill/restaurant. The burger/fries/tea I had were very good, but $14 made me understand why the $10 lunch voucher was needed real quickly.

The cart gal came around a couple of times, which needs to be more, because there is not any, and I mean ZERO water stations anywhere on the 27 holes.
5 Likes.
This is a city of Portland course. Teed off @ 2:42 pm, walked the blues (6552/71.7/123) in 4 hours, 15 minutes on a busy Friday afternoon for $24, their standard twilight walking rate.

The layout is very good, no great holes, but no hokey or bad holes either. It's challenging, not overly tight and not alot of water, but the tall tress that line every single fairway on both sides will quickly grab your attention. There are well placed tall tress on nearly every hole that can knock down drives that are even slightly offline and cost you 100-150 yards on a shot that would be Ok on many courses. You are constantly up/down hills and going around tall tree, lined fairways. The back 9 has three par 5's, all of which are scoreable. 17 & 18 are long, tough par 4 finishing holes. The par 4's are the teeth of this course, their 1-5 handicap holes are all par 4's.

The greens putt decently, they are smooth, usually firm and medium speed. The downside is that numerous greens have some bare spots around the edges. And while they can avoid pin placements closeby, it's hit and miss on whether the bad spots could affect long putts or chips.

Both the fairways and the rough close to the fairway are semi lush, you usually get decent lies. If you are more than 20 yards from the fairway, there are many areas of the rough that have large areas that are brown where the lie will be much more spotty. They flat out need more water.

The sand traps were decent, it looks they they are maintained on a daily basis.

The tees were generally good, it looked like they rotated the tee markers often.

Positives are that the pro shop is well stocked and they have a nice grill on site. Customer service was a ++.

Negatives are that there are only a few holes that have water fountains and there is no drink/snack cart.

This is an above average course by city standards, but it's not in as good of shape as it was when I played here a few months ago. It's been awhile since there has been a decent rain up here, and they just don't water it as well as they could/should.
9 Likes.
Teed off @ 220pm, enjoyed a round with GKers Longtee400 & Tocho261. Walked the blues (6682/72.6/130) in 4.5 hours on a busy Thur. afternoon for $20 on a prepaid Golfnow deal.

This is a city of Portland course. First, the good, the layout is excellent. It's challenging, not too tight but there are enough forced carries over marshland, lakes or yellow staked hazards to get anyone's attention. There are also many areas of native grass that is knee deep and an almost certain lost ball or unplayable lie. You are constantly up/down hills and going around tall tree, lined fairways. The bad is that they just don't water or maintain it as well as they could/should. And it's a shame, this could really be an outstanding course.

The greens putt decently, they are smooth, usually firm and medium speed. The downside is that numerous greens have some bare spots around the edges. And while they can avoid pin placements closeby, it's hit and miss on whether the bad spots could affect long putts or chips.

Both the fairways and rough are usually semi lush, you usually get decent lies. However, every single hole has multiple large areas that are brown where the lie will be much more spotty. They flat out need more water.

The sand traps were average, it didn't look like they were maintained on a daily basis. Our group had a couple of balls come to rest in unraked footprints.

The tees were generally good, it looked like they rotated the tee markers often.

The pro shop has a huge selection of golf clubs & merchandise in a tented area out front. A nice chipping and practice area. I really like the course, and would play here alot more if the conditions came close to matching the quality of the layout.
4 Likes.
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