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Played the Blacks (5826/68.3/117) in slightly over 4H with GDR23, Mack & Brian, VERY enjoyable group to play with. The weather was overcast, in the 70's and fairly calm.

The Bermuda tees were in very good shape with almost all the divot damage already properly maintained.

The fairways were immaculate. Definitely the best I have ever seen the fairways @ Buena, they looked and played as good as Olivas fairways, which is a high standard locally. Lush with almost complete coverage everywhere.

The rough is mowed down, few lost ball areas which is great for POP. Lusher closer to the fairways/greens, thinner the farther you are from the fairway.

The sand traps had nice sand, but too many players here do not rake properly.

While from tee to green the course was in excellent condition, the greens were disappointing. Medium speed, kind of bumpy with their normal amount of ball marks. We had all played the firm, smooth, much faster greens on RR Lakes in the morning, so our entire 4some had challenges adjusting. They did hold approach shots very well.

The customer service was excellent as usual, No drink cart, no GPS on the basic carts but the sprinklers are well marked. Nice snack stand with good burgers and their drinks are good AD. Buena is a fun, shorter course that is tougher than the scorecard initially indicates because of trees, tightness and the usual 1-2 club ocean breeze. Easy course to walk, shorter, few hills, no long walks between tee boxes. No range, they only have a couple of cages to warm up in. Recommended.
7 Likes.
Walked the Blues (6789/72.5/130) on the GK Coupon with GDR23 and 2 nice super seniors. The weather was very overcast and in the 70's.

Longest 4H, 40M round I have ever played, the 2 gentleman we were paired with could be known as slow and slower. We teed off right behind the group in front of us and by the time we were on #4 green the group in front was already on #6 fairway? Gary/I were walking. Gary was in the hole on #4, I was waiting to putt and the riding 2some we were paired with were still on the other side of the 100 yard marker? Only reason we finished in 4H, 40M was we never had to wait because there were 3+ holes open in front of us by the time we were on the back and either Gary or I started going to the next tee and hitting while they were chipping back & forth across greens.

People usually comment about players playing the wrong tees when they are playing the tips w/o the length or skill to do so. These guys were playing the whites, which is over 6300 yards @ RR Lakes. Not sure if it was because the Marshall said something to them or they became self aware by the back 9, but they finally moved up to the Golds. The one guy was over 80, walked to/from the cart with a cane and was hitting hybrids from inside 100 yards... and he is trying to play a 6300 yard course? The Marshall commented to Gary when he was looking over his eagle attempt on #18 that we drew a tough pairing, so evidently they were well known.

Overall, this was about as good of condition as I have ever seen the Lakes courses in.

The Bermuda tees were lush and had good coverage. Generally level with few unfixed divots.

The Bermuda fairways were mostly lush with good coverage. Very nice to play from.

The Bermuda rough also had good coverage overall. Not super deep, but long enough that playing anything more than a middle iron was unlikely.

The fairway bunkers were more hard packed, softer around the greens. Overall, the sand quality was good and the traps were decently maintained.

The fringes/aprons were very lush up to about 5 yards off the green. The greens were mostly smooth and firm but still held iron shots well. They putted medium fast and looked like the cover of a pool table. Easily some of the best greens I have putted on this year.

The staff here is always pleasant to deal with here and RR is usually relatively on time with tee times. The Lakes course is a challenging course to play and to walk. The tee boxes on holes 11, 15 & 18 are a good distance from the last green. 2 big climbs and mostly flat otherwise, but this is not a short course and it's usually windy. No beverage cart today. Definitely recommended.
7 Likes.
Played the Copper tees (72.1/132/6756) on the Wild Burro/Saguaro combo in 4.5 hours mid day. Matched up with Aaron, Art & Jeff, we played in hot & humid conditions. It was fairly still for the 1st 2/3 of the round, with the wind whipping up in the 20-25 mph range as a storm approached as we were finishing up.

Nicklaus Signature course that was used for the World Match Play a few years back. From tee to green it was fair for a high end desert course designed to test PGA Tour players. On 1st glance, it seems mostly flat, but the course has alot of undulation that produced more uneven lies than you would expect based on what you see from the tee. The course is at elevation (3000'?), so it plays shorter than the yardage indicates.

The mostly raised green complexes are typical Nicklaus, except on steroids. Not only fairly severe undulations, but most greens had numerous pin locations that were out on a shelf where if you missed the green you were in a deep bunker or had almost no green to work with on a severely uphill chip.

The Bermuda tees were mostly lush and well maintained.

The Bermuda fairways were nice, very good bordering on excellent.

the Bermuda rough was penal, just long enough that the ball usually sat down. A few bare areas here and there, but mostly lush.

The sand traps were large, plentiful, deep and very well maintained. Many of these traps need to flat out be avoided by most amateurs because of the size of the lips.

The greens were medium speed and putted mostly smooth. I had a good putting day, but these things would be unmanageable for most players when they are fast. I had numerous double breakers and several putts I played 4-6' of break on.

The customer service was very good from all encountered. Cart attendant cleans your clubs and provided plenty of water on a hot day. Nice putting/chipping greens and all grass driving range in included with your fee. Really good course. Definitely recommended.
10 Likes.
Played the Greens (70.8/136/6537). The weather was clear & hot, with temps around 100 by the time we were finishing. Matched up with Rob, Sam & Kay for a very enjoyable round. We played 4 different sets of tees and were never pushed from behind, finishing in 4H, 20M.

Tom Fazio design. Very difficult course but also fair and very fun to play. Tight but not overly tight... but anything much offline is going to bite you on most shots.

Loved the layout. Constantly Up/down rolling hills, much more down than up. You would play a couple of holes downhill, then have a long climb back up the hill to a new tee box to start a new downhill stretch. Only a few holes played uphill, so overall, the course played shorter than the yardage would indicate. Some risk/reward par 4's and a good collection of par 3's. This would be an almost impossible course to walk, numerous long distances from a green to the next tee box. #9 green was probably 1/3 mile from #10 tee as an example. No tricked up holes, the forced carries were fair. The tight holes were balanced by more open holes. However, there are no holes I would classify as wide open, at most you had a bailout on 1 side.

The Bermuda tees had good coverage, mostly lush and were nice to play from.

The Bermuda fairways were mostly lush and deceptively undulating, few flat lies.

The Bermuda rough was generally penal, the ball sat down. A few bare areas here and there farther away from fairways, but good to very good overall.

The sand traps were plentiful and very well maintained with good quality, light sand.

These were the best Bermuda greens I have ever putted on, period. Medium fast, smooth and very consistent from green to green, maybe the quickest Bermuda greens I have ever putted on. Firm, you could barely leave a ball or pitch mark and immaculately maintained.

The customer service was excellent from all encountered. Very nice grass driving range is included in your fee. Considering the layout and playing conditions, this is probably among the top dozen courses I have ever played. Definitely recommended.
10 Likes.
Played the Blacks (70.7/135/6331) on the Rattler/Roadrunner 9's in 3H. The weather was overcast and well into the 90's by the time I was finishing around 9:30.

The customer service was excellent from all encountered, especially Mac the starter and Adam in the Pro Shop. Nice grass driving range that is included with your fee complete with a good chipping/practice green area.

My 1st time here, I was advised beforehand that this is not the course to play to lower your handicap. Even though this course is not long, it is tight with lots of semi blind shots. The 135 slope from the next to the back tees was well deserved. Many forced carries over nativescape hazards, and every hole has red or white stakes down both sides. Also numerous holes where you cannot see the green from the tee, having played the course before would be a huge asset.

The Bermuda tees were mostly good, however several had large patches of hardpan.

Same for the Bermuda fairways. 95% was good bordering on excellent... the other 5% was bare ground, with nothing in between.

The Bermuda rough was lush and penal because the ball usually sat down in it.

The sand traps were a clay dirt mixture that looked good and they played excellent, immaculately maintained.

The mostly elevated green complexes still showed the effects of a recent punching. However, they putted better than they looked, medium speed and fairly smooth. I saw the lines well on these greens and had a good putting day.

This is desert target golf on steroids. A course to play if you want to be tested. Definitely not a course for beginners or someone who cannot get the ball in the air or hit it fairly straight. Recommended with all the above in mind.
9 Likes.
Played 27 holes from the Blues (6530/71.6/127) in 5.5H with GDR23 & Mack twilight. The conditions were clear, around 80 and a steady 2 club wind the entire afternoon.

The tees were mostly lush with only the par 3's not close to immaculate.

The fairways were lush and soft. The few poor areas were clearly marked as GUR.

The rough around the fairway is mostly lush. Farther off the fairway you could encounter hardpan to waist deep or anything in between.

The traps have good, fine quality sand but for my 3rd straight round here did not appear to have been recently raked. The foot prints were too numerous, plus the green side trap on #5 and the fairway trap on #9 had sprinkler runoff issues.

The greens were medium speed and bumpy for Olivas. Softer than usual, which produced footprints and ball marks in excess on most greens. Definitely not the firm, medium fast, smooth greens I remember @ Olivas.

Customer service excellent as always. One of the best walking courses around. Flat with no long hikes in between holes. Excellent warm up/practice facilities. Really like the multiple chipping areas. Driving range moved back to the outer edge and on mats yesterday. Minimal food & drink available onsite, the no frills pro shop is in a trailer. No GPS on carts, usually no drink cart, so plan ahead if you need food/beverage. Recommended.
8 Likes.
Played the Golds (6381/70.4/125) as a single in clear, breezy conditions in the high 80's. Amazing to play a mid afternoon weekend round a hole behind a 2some with 4 full holes open behind you. Cut 2 holes ahead of the group in front on the back then circled back... never waited a shot the entire round, awesome POP!

Most of the tees were decently maintained, good coverage with few unfixed divots except for the par 3's.

The Kikuyu fairways had good coverage with a few brown spots. However, I always had decent to good lies in the fairway.

The Kikuyu rough is not overly long, but it is overly thick. Even a lie seemingly sitting up can be penal.

The sand traps have a decent amount of medium to large grain brown sand that played well. Nicely maintained.

The greens putted okay overall, medium speed & were consistent from green to green. They had some browned out areas but held approach shots.

SH is a nice walking layout with few tees far from the last green. Fun playing layout with plenty of hills & trees to keep you interested. Nice practice putting green that is very comparable to the on course greens, small practice chipping area. The customer service was excellent as usual. Saw the drink cart gal several times today. Large, refillable lemonade in the snack bar was delicious on a hot afternoon. Decent driving range with mats 5/7 days. Excellent club repair facility beside the driving range that is usually manned. Medium difficulty course in good condition @ reasonable prices. Recommended = Yes.
9 Likes.
Played the Golds (6381/70.4/125) as a single in less than 3H in clear, breezy conditions approaching 90 degrees.

The course is in decent condition for mid Summer... but not nearly as nice as it was a couple of months ago.

Most of the tees were decently maintained, good coverage with few unfixed divots.

The Kikuyu fairways had good coverage, almost shaggy on a few holes. A few brown spots, but I always had decent lies in the fairway.

The Kikuyu rough is penal. Even though it is not overly long, it is overly thick.

The sand traps were very nicely maintained. A decent amount of medium to large grain brown sand that played well.

The greens had some browned out areas but putted okay overall. They were medium speed & were consistent from green to green. They were not overly firm and held approach shots. A complaint I have here is the areas of encroachment from the Kikuyu collars into the edges of many greens.

Fun layout with plenty of hills & trees to keep you interested. Nice practice putting green that is very comparable to the on course greens, small practice chipping area. Medium to somewhat challenging course to walk, constantly up/down rolling hills on the front 9, the back 9 is flat.

The customer service was good and saw the drink cart gal several times today. Decent driving range with mats 5/7 days. Medium difficulty course in good condition @ reasonable prices. Recommended = Yes.
9 Likes.
Played the Blues (73.3/136/6670) with Parker, his dad Jim & Mike in bright, breezy conditions in the 70's. The POP was around 4.5H. This would be a very challenging course to walk since it's hilly with several tees a good distance from the last green. Many holes have red penalty areas down one or both sides, but I usually find this course very manageable off the tee. Fairly wide landing areas on most holes.

The customer service was excellent from all encountered. Starts with an attendant collecting your clubs when you arrive, to complimentary range balls and finishes with attendants who clean you clubs and provide cool, wet towels for you to wash off with at the conclusion of your round. They also have an informative starter and Marshall who actually is courteously out looking to enforce POP guidelines.

The Bermuda tees were very good. Only a few par 3's needed divot attention.

The Bermuda fairways were mostly lush. I almost always had good lies in the fairway.

The Bermuda rough had good coverage and was mostly lush. Not too penal, it was deep enough to get your attention but your could always find your ball in the primary rough.

The traps here are about as good as you can get on any public course. Good quality sand, enough said!

The greens putted medium fast, were usually firm and relatively smooth for the most part. The only negative was the amount of unfixed ball marks, which is a golfer issue.

Excellent practice facility that is inclusive with the daily fee. Drink cart out and making the rounds multiple times. The only negative here is that the carts do not have GPS, which is really odd for a high end course? The amenities, layout, design, difficulty and conditions are all well above average. Absolutely recommended.
10 Likes.
Played the Blues (6530/71.6/127) in less than 2.5H as a single on a Tee off special for $19. Riding twilight, I played through several groups and zipped around. The weather was clear and in the 70's, with a 1-2 club breeze the entire round.

Olivas is everything you would look for in a walking course. Flat with no super long walks in between holes. Excellent practice facilities. Grass driving range complete with a good chipping and sand practice area that they have expanded to include a separate chipping area off to the side of the chipping green. Large putting green that is usually very comparable to the course.

While the conditions are still well above average for a So Cal municipal course, my last 2 rounds here makes me wonder if they have changed maintenance staffs recently?

The tees were mostly lush with only the par 3's not close to immaculate.

The fairways were fairly lush and soft. I had numerous ball marks right about where my ball ended up. The few poor areas were clearly marked as GUR.

The rough around the fairway is mostly lush. Farther off the fairway you could encounter hardpan to waist deep or anything in between.

The traps have good, fine quality sand but for my 2nd straight round here did not appear to have been recently raked. Numerous foot prints and the green side trap on #5 had sprinkler runoff issues.

The greens were soft which held irons close to the ball mark. The softness produced more footprints and ball marks than I have ever experienced here. Medium speed and bumpier than I would expect from playing many prior rounds at Olivas. The fringes were recently aerated, and on about 1/2 the greens they had done 12-15' wide sections around some of the greens edges that were still visible.

Customer service excellent as always. Minimal food available onsite, the no frills pro shop is in a trailer. No GPS on carts, usually no drink cart, so plan ahead if you need food/beverage. Overall, considering the usual playing conditions, price and layout, one of the better deals in So Cal. Recommended, just downgraded from it's usual excellent to very good.
10 Likes.
Played the Blues (73.3/136/6670) with 140ver, Ali & Armando in bright, breezy conditions in the 70's. The POP was 4H, 45M.

The Bermuda tees were very good, mowed close. Only a few par 3's needed divot attention.

The Bermuda fairways played very well. I almost always had good lies in the fairway.

The Bermuda rough had good coverage and was not too penal.

The traps here have good quality sand & are very nicely maintained.

The greens putted medium fast, were usually firm and relatively smooth going out early. The green complexes @ Maderas are huge, undulating and many have crowns. You could easily have a 100+ foot putt on multiple greens on this course.

Excellent practice facility that is inclusive with the green fee. The customer service was excellent from all encountered. Starts with an attendant collecting your clubs when you arrive, to complimentary range balls and finishes with attendants who clean you clubs and provide cool, wet towels for you to wash off with at the conclusion of your round. They also have an informative starter and Marshall who actually looks to enforce POP guidelines. Drink cart out and making the rounds multiple times. This would be a very challenging course to walk since it's hilly with several tees a good distance from the last green. Many holes have red penalty areas down one or both sides, but I usually find this course very manageable off the tee. Fairly wide landing areas on most holes. The only negative here is that the carts do not have GPS, which is really odd for a high end course? Definitely would be beneficial here, with all the elevation changes it is challenging to gauge distances correctly. The amenities, layout, design, difficulty and conditions are all well above average. Definitely recommended.
12 Likes.
Played the Blues (6530/71.6/127) as a single in less than 3H on a Tee off special for less than $20 to play twilight. The weather was windy, clear and in the 70's.

The tees were mostly lush with only the par 3's not close to immaculate.

The fairways were fairly lush and soft. The few poor areas were clearly marked as GUR.

The rough around the fairway is mostly lush. Farther off the fairway you could encounter hardpan to waist deep or anything in between. You need to know where the real deep stuff is barely off fairways and plan accordingly.

The traps had good sand but were not well maintained today. Numerous foot prints and the one green side trap I was in had sprinkler runoff issues.

The greens usually are good to very good here. Today however, they were soft which held irons close to the ball mark. The downside was this produced lots of footprints and ball marks. Medium speed and bumpier than I would expect from Olivas because of this. The fringes had been recently aerated, and on about 1/2 the greens they had done 12-15' wide sections around some of the greens edges. Definitely affected chips and putts from the inside or on the wrong side of the aerated areas.

I have never not had excellent customer service here. Minimal food available onsite, the no frills pro shop is in a trailer. No GPS on carts, usually no drink cart, so plan ahead if you need food/beverage. Olivas is an excellent layout to walk, very flat with no super long walks in between holes. Excellent practice facilities. Grass driving range complete with a good chipping and sand practice area that they have expanded to include a separate chipping area off to the side of the chipping green. Large putting green that is usually very comparable to the course.

Overall considering the usual playing conditions, price and layout, one of the better deals in So Cal. Definitely recommended.
9 Likes.
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