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Played 1/5 in a "work" event. Great service everywhere. I was reminded to do a review thinking about the brat I had after the round at the small food building they have next to the ninth green and where the round ends. It blew away the brat I had at Pebble a couple of days earlier. Fresh and hot off the griddle. They even put hot sauerkraut on it which was great but too much for the bun to handle. Speaking of the service, a service rep went up to two guys waiting who were falling behind on pace at the turn and told them to go tee off, that he would bring their food out to them on the course. Nice.

I also played some golf. The course was in great shape considering it was January. They have not had much rain this fall but everything was lush. The fairways were a pleasure to hit from. The rough was long enough to make solid contact difficult but finding balls was not a problem. For whatever reason, the greens were the slowest we played on that week. They looked great and rolled true but they were not fast. Medium at best.

I love this course. My favorite up here considering the variety, the challenge and the fact I get nothing like it in the LA area. One note. The caddie fee seems to have gone up dramatically since I last paid it a couple of years ago. Forecaddie with cart, bringing clubs out to you, was over $90 per person for four people, not counting tip. I thought last time I paid the fee it was an $85 flat fee not dependent on number of players. Part of the experience but more than I expected. And I loved my caddie, Richard aka Bogey. He did a great job. I highly recommend him.
11 Likes.
Played in a tournament on Saturday, the 13th. It was scheduled to start at 9:00 but went off about 15 minutes late. Very slow round. We finished in about 5:20. Considering I did not play well, it was an ordeal.

The course was in okay shape overall. Quite a few bare spots in the fairways, at least some due to winter conditions. They have let some areas go to dirt on the sides (such as right of the cart path on #1) although there is a decent amount of rough area. The rough was cut low and not much of a factor. The sand traps had thick beach type sand and we had at least two players plug in the face of bunkers.

The greens were whoa Nelly fast. Easily the fastest greens I have played in a while and rolling true. Given the slope on some greens, the speed made it difficult. Two people in my group (okay, I was one of them) four putted greens. On a par three on the back nine, I saw four people chip across and off the green on a front pin placement where if you were not below the hole, you could not hold the green if you got to the hole on your chip. I liked the challenge the greens provided. They were the highlight of the course.

The course has wild areas but the undergrowth has been largely cleared out where it might come into play. We had numerous shots bounce off hillsides and back into the grass or at least where they could be played. It was possible to get into trouble but there was definitely some forgiveness. There are a lot of uphill shots to greens where it is difficult to judge distances to counter the forgiveness of the tee shots.

I seem to play here every 8 to 10 years. If it is that long again, I probably won't be sad about it.
9 Likes.
Played on Saturday, December 9. They had put a top dressing of sand on the greens sometime this week, but it did not affect play. They were running well if not as good as the week before. The sand was little evident on the back nine, indicating to me that they started there.

Overall, the course was in pretty good shape. I like the fact they are regrowing grass in some of the areas they let go during the drought. Hopefully by this spring, with a decent rainy season, the course will be more lush around the edges. We started about 7:00, ten minutes late, and finished in just over 4.5 hours. We waited on most shots. Still, a gorgeous morning only marred by the cloud of smoke rising behind Malibu from the Thomas Fire.
7 Likes.
Played early on Saturday. POP 3 hours 45 minutes, walking. We had at least two open holes behind us though when we reached the 17th tee, so the later groups did not get to enjoy the outstanding pace of play.

I was pleasantly surprised by the conditions, especially the greens. They were much faster than usual, rolling really well. Otherwise the conditions were decent. The fairways were pretty good if tightly mowed. There are quite a few kikuyu spots where it seemed bare because the grass was cut low. I did not seen any true bare spots though. The rough was hit or miss. Cut lower than it was last winter. The one fairway bunker I was in was very firm. No complaints from those in the greenside bunkers.

Good facilities including coffee shop and bar. I'll be back.
5 Likes.
Played in a tourney today, scheduled for 10:00 am. Got off about a half hour late and played in 5 hours. Both were expected.

Really enjoyed the course today. Lush fairways, rough was a factor, and the green side bunkers were nice. They are working on some of the fairway bunkers which are GUR. Sure there were some bare areas and a few tee boxes were not level. Meanwhile the greens were fantastic. Quick and true. As good as poa gets. The scores in my club were pretty high I think because the greens were so fast. We had two four putt greens in my foursome. I was worried the course greens would not live up to the perfect practice greens but they were right there with them.

Sorry about going on about the greens but to some extent I rate a course based on them.

The cart lady was diligent, they have a well stocked snack stand at a convenient junction, and a barbecue at the turn. There is a lot to like at ElDo right now.
14 Likes.
Stopped here to wait out the traffic after working in the Inland Empire yesterday morning. Didn't work too well because we played in 3.5 hours and I ended up hitting the freeway in the rush hour peak. Can't beat the pace of play though. $41 to ride on a hot afternoon.

The course was in pretty good shape. The Classic course is quite lush on the front nine and decent but not as lush on the back nine. The rough was up and we had to spend some time looking for balls, including one I could not find on No. 9. The only negatives to the round were the greens being slower than normal, less than medium speed, and no sand in one bunker I was in. They had a top layer of sand on some greens. I could not tell if it was spot repair work or if the sand had been assimilated into the greens in some places. Either way, it did not help the speed problem.

The service was good throughout. I'll be back.
11 Likes.
Know Before You Go. Didn't and paid for it. Next time I'll at least read the last review! Greens were brutally disgracefull. 2 and 3 or 4 (don't recall which) had some fungus going on with sanded areas. All the greens were shaggy and slow except a couple on the back nine. None were like the practice green which was pretty good. Bumps were consistent throughout the course.

The fairways varied from dried hard pan old school drought Alondra and lush kikuyu. The rough was up in spots.

Overall, the course is a disgrace to the County golf system.

With regard to service, I can't get past the bizarre sequence of groups, single, single, woman giving playing lesson to six and ten year old girls, threesome, twosome, twosome.... The fact we played in 4.5 hours on Sunday mid morning did not make me feel any better. We were in the group behind the playing lesson. It could not get over fast enough.
7 Likes.
I'm told the course will not be on our rotation again, but played it in a tourney on Sunday, August 6. On the plus side, the pace of play was decent, about 4:30.

The holes on the clubhouse side of the street are decently lush. The fairways were lush. The sand was good in both bunkers I was in. There was gnarly rough in places and we spent a lot of time looking for balls not that far off the fairway. The course is less lush on the driving range side of the street. The golf carts are amazingly durable considering all the gopher mounds in the rough in places. About as rough a ride as I can remember.

The greens were pretty good. A bit too bumpy, and a bit too soft (probably connected). Decent speed but not as nice or as fast as the practice green.

No drink cart. Nice bar and the food looked better than average. They were advertising on the 9th tee a Hot Dog of the Month Special - Bacon wrapped hot dog with barbecue sauce, cheese and green onions. Really?

Its golf but I am in no hurry to get back.
9 Likes.
Played Friday and Sunday, July 28 and 30, both relatively early rounds. Pace of play was excellent on Friday (3:45) and great on Sunday (3:20). The service is excellent in the pro shop. It is good in the coffee shop as well although the spot is popular with local residents so it can take a while to get food.

The course was in good shape. The water features contain water again. The rough is thick generally and nasty in some places. The fairways were shaggy and quite wet so there was not as much roll as you would expect. The heat was the likely reason. The greens were good. They were running at medium speed with some bumps because they were soft making footprints a factor. The sand was just okay because there were quite a few rocks present. The tee boxes had some crowning.

I like the course layout and enjoy it. I recommend it although word to the wise - use bug spray. The mosquitoes killed us on Friday.
11 Likes.
Played here for the first time in a tournament on Sunday, July 9. I had avoided the course the last few years because of reviews on pace of play. Those reviews proved true as it was a solid 5.5 hour round on a hot day. Not as hot as inland though as one could tell we were fairly close to the ocean.

The course layout was kind of confusing in that the separation between it and the sister course was not that clear at times. At one point, we had to tell a group that jumped in front of us (the group playing in front stopped at the snack stand in the middle of the back nine) that they were on the wrong course. I was surprised that there were no out of bounds delineations between the courses.

The course had decent conditions. The rough was up so much that we had to search for balls often. From a comment from another player, I gathered that was unusual. I had a couple of really tough lies in the rough. The fairways and sand traps were fine. The greens were of decent speed (faster than the practice green) but had some bumps that kept it interesting.

Nice facilities, good customer service throughout. Saw the cart ladies multiple times. $4.50 for an 805 after the round. I might be back but it is not a sure thing.
10 Likes.
Played Sunday in the last leg of a two day tourney. I liked this course better than the Vineyard. It looks newer. It plays higher in elevation and there are some great views of the surrounding area.

The conditions were very nice. The City gross championship is here next weekend and the rough was definitely higher than Vineyard (where they are playing the Senior and Net championships). The greens were a lot faster. They were said to be 11.5 on the stimp. The greens are relatively undulating and any faster would have been tough. I thought they ran true and nice at the present speed.

The only negative was the thin layer of sand in the bunkers. I was in two. I was lucky the ball hit the lip on one when I tried to blast out and hit the ball on the bounce. I liked they had a snack house at the turn.

The layout was more visually intimidating than Vineyard with more water. Once again, course knowledge would have been nice.
8 Likes.
Played the two courses for the first time this last weekend, with Vineyard being the first on Saturday. I was in a tournament but my interaction with the staff was positive. They were cheerful and efficient. The marshals were all over the tournament site but I did not hear any grumping about negative interactions. Pace of play was about 4:45 which was decent for an event like this.

I liked the course. I thought it was in pretty good shape. Decently lush fairway and rough. I was not in any bunkers. The greens were a little shaggy. I heard 10.5 on the stimp but I thought they were a little slower. They were okay, but not as fast as I had expected from other reviews.

It was a course in which some course experience would have been handy. Quite a few blind tee shots. I do not know if it would have helped my score but it would have been some comfort. I would play here again.

I should add that quite a few of us stayed at the adjacent Marriott Residence Inn. It is right on the 13th hole and one could walk to the clubhouse. Decent rate at a great location for the golf.
9 Likes.
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