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Played earlier this week as first one out. Pace of play was not an issue at all finishing in about 3 hours 15 minutes. Overall course is in ok shape. Certainly has the looks of being dried out and browner but still very playable. They are getting water down on the course as there were some soft spots out there.

Greens are what was expected. A little slow in the morning as there was the morning dew slowing down putts to start but as the round went on they picked up a little pace. Still probably medium slow speed.

Fairways are ok. You'll generally get a decent lie but there are some iffy areas out there. Still the fairway on 12 has turf down but it looks like it didn't take and there are some big patches of dying turf. I don't know what it is about this section of the course but it always seems like they have a problem here.

Sand needs to be raked as there were several bunkers that still had footprints from the day before but the sand was actually pretty good to hit from. I was in greenside bunkers and not in a fairway bunker. The fairway bunkers looked a little firmer.

Staff is always great. For the price I still think it is a good value and offers some challenges. I always say these probably have the most difficult set of par 3s in San Diego.
8 Likes.
Played here twice in the past 3 days both in the morning. Pace was between 4 1/2 to 5 hours both times.

Greens are quick. I consistently rolled putts past. Note the practice green was closed today. With the amount of play there are some ball marks but I think people are not aware how much shots roll out on these greens so they are not aware of where their ball hit.

Fairways were really good they were mowed today so they were especially nice today.

Rough is BRUTAL. Please if you are not a highly skilled golfer just put it back in play. It’s humbling yes I know but more times than not it will result in a better outcome. I had to do this myself a few times and ended giving myself at least looks for par saves. Surprisingly I only lost 1 ball over the 2 rounds and believe me it could have been a couple more if I wasn’t standing on top of it when I found it.

Sand is fine but the bunkers could be raked. I was only in green side bunkers but everything looked pretty consistent.

Tee boxes were fine, pretty level and a few more divots on the par 3s.

Overall it was an enjoyable _____ kicking. Great conditions right now.
11 Likes.
Played in the SCGA outing today. After playing here this place reminds me of Sycuan on steroids. Lots of mature oaks lining the fairways. I’d say the front is pretty flat but the back gets a lot more interesting and tighter.

Greens are pretty good. I thought the practice green was a tad faster than the actual greens. I did have one putt get knocked off line but for the most part they are pretty smooth.

Fairways were great, never had a problem but I saw a few dry and questionable areas but generally very good to hit from. For the most part the fairway is flat, you’re just hitting to an elevated green. Not too much in the way of balls above or below your feet.

Tee boxes were good. I only remember one that was too uneven. The problem is with the actual tee shots themselves. You have some narrow tee shots from the back or shots where a tree is hanging out there that you need to shape it around.

Bunkers are very nice. I was in several green side bunkers and one buried lie and was able to get that thump on them. Even made a few sandies, it’s amazing what one can do where there is actual quality sand to hit from.

Staff was super helpful and friendly. Every worker I saw said hello and acknowledged you. They certainly made you feel like a member. Overall I enjoyed this track. It’s just tough to get to since it’s so out there in no mans land but worth playing every year nice in a while.
8 Likes.
Played in the SCGA outing on Monday, this is one of my favorites in SD and I try and take advantage any time there is a tournament or outing here.

When I looked at the putting green it didn't look fast but my first few putts rolled quite a bit past the hole. They are surprisingly quick and very smooth. This course always seems to have great greens. There are a few greens that have some ridges and slope and we were told everything slopes toward the 2nd green.

These are some of the deepest bunkers I've ever seen. There are some that you can't even see the flag from in there. All were raked nicely and ample sand too. I was in a few and one of those times I had to aim quite a bit away from the hole just to clear the bunker and have to catch a slope.

Fairways were good and nice to hit from. There are quite a few mounds which is surprising considering the area. You'd think it would be pretty flat but they do have some slope to them.

Took me a little while to get adjusted to the rough. It wasn't thick per se but man can a ball just sit down in this stuff. Also if you weren't in the fairway there were lots of trees. I had to hit a couple of shots over trees back to the fairway or punch under the tree to try and get it back in play.

Staff was outstanding. I always enjoy it out here and look forward to coming back.
8 Likes.
Had an 8:20 tee time and teed off right on time. Over pace was less than 4 hours but felt longer because we were waiting quite a bit.

Played the tips and the tee boxes are in dire need of mowing. I mean this grass was incredibly high. Probably the length of the driver face. We would actually use our feet to trample down the grass. I’ve never seen tee box grass so high.

Fairways were great and nice to hit off from. Visually looks smaller but actually more room than it looks being the first time I played here. I’m not sure if it’s the back ground or evlevation changes but some shots I couldn’t figure out where I wanted to be. There are a few tee shots I’d like a redo on.

I saw some pretty gnarly rough which was more around the greens. Rough around the fairway was playable.

Greens were super slow and pretty bumpy. They need to be rolled and cut.

Staff was outstanding out here. I like the layout and #14 is one of the most scenic par 3 I have ever played. I would be back but the conditions would have to be a lot better for me to drive back up here.
11 Likes.
Played last weekend, teeing off at 6:30 as a 3some. We were chasing a 3some and the foursome behind us was always a hole behind. It was kind of like a country club.

Greens are firm but not as firm as before. You still need to play for some roll but if the pin is back you’re best playing to the middle and letting it roll back. Pretty good pace on them. Probably the best part of the course right now.

I thought the fairways could use a mowing. It was a little wet and soft the morning I played and we even had some drizzle so maybe that’s why it wasn’t mowed but it looked like it hadn’t been mowed in a while.

Rough is pretty thick and getting thicker. It’s definitely affecting shots and you definitely need keep your eye on the ball.

Wasn’t in a bunker but the looked ok.

If they can get the fairway mowed everything would be great and worth it but I’d hold off if I was a non resident.
9 Likes.
Played yesterday in the second guru group. I think our pace was a little over 4 1/2 hours.

Greens were in really good shape. I think the practice green was a little faster than the greens on the course so I left the first few short but the speed themselves are fine. The thing about the greens is hitting to the correct spot on the green. There are some big slopes out there that if you miss you can be looking at a 3 putt.

Fairways were really good too. I never found a bad lie in the fairway but Jerry did, his ball rolled right in a filled divot. It was like playing a bunker shot in the middle of the fairway.

Agree with Gary that the rough is hit or miss here but there is a lot of environmental areas if you stray too far offline. There are also some thicker areas out there and other spots where it didn't affect my shot decisions.

I was in a couple of bunkers 2 fairway and one greenside. The fairway bunkers were definitely firmer and the greenside was softer.

Tee boxes were scalped but I thought the back side tees were in better shape than the front. While they looked brown and appeared they would be hard there were actually not that hard at all. It's also a tee box so it didn't affect me at all.

Everyone here was really helpful here.
8 Likes.
Played in the men's club today starting at 7. It was a long round. Took about 5 1/2 hours today. Saw a couple marshals but really didn't seen any openings or slow groups.

It is pretty rough out there and the place is in need of overseeding. However the greens are pretty fast but many ball marks. Saw quite a few balls hop after they were hit. I did like the greens though.

The rough is bare and cut down. Lots of dry areas and lots of bare areas. Even around the greens which makes chipping more difficult.

Fairway is just ok at best. Many divots out there.

Sand was actually really good.

I'd say even for a resident it would be hard to justify the greens fees with these conditions. I think after the fall maintenance things will be back to normal and will probably wait until then to be back myself. Also on a side note the north looks terrible. From what I could see it was completely brown.
10 Likes.
Played in a tournament this morning which we played from the white tees. I was very surprised how wet the course was.

I knew half of the greens were punched and they do need more time to heal. Since this was a tournament all our putts were on the flag side and never had to put thru this. Greens are a decent speed but too many ball marks.

There were quite a few tee boxes that were muddy and the white makers were in this area. Some boxes needed to be mowed too.

Fairways are just ok. You'll find decent lies but that's about it.

The ball could sit down in the rough with the grass here. But since it was a tournament we were able to give ourselves better lies so it wasn't bad. Like most other courses there are thicker areas and some pretty bare areas.

Traps looked pretty rough. There was actually water in 2 or 3 and the sand is really dark. I have never seen sand that was this dark.

The range is actually pretty bad. This is another one that has the artificial turf where you stick your own tee in but you can because there is concrete under neath so you have to break a tee in half. That is if you can get the ball to balance on it. Also the balls should be replaced. Balls were muddy and dirt caked on it. Some were also cut like the mower went over them.

Customer service was great and the food was pretty decent after the round. I wouldn't go out of my way to play here right now.
9 Likes.
Had a 12:45 time and since no one was out there they let me go with a group at 12:15. There was no one behind us all day. There was no one in front of us for the front 9 and we played that in about 1:45 but caught the groups in front of us on 10 and finished the round right at 3:45.

Greens are just ok. I thought they were a little worse this time than the last time I played here. Seemed slower and many more ball marks on the greens. I figured the afternoon round the greens would be much quicker but they actually seemed slower to me. On the back 9 greens there were a handful of greens where the mower that cut the greens was leaking oil so there were these oil tracks up and down the greens.

Fairways were really good. Good lies for the most part i did play off a semi brown/hardpan but the turf wasn't bad to hit from actually.

Rough was decent. I almost lost a ball because the rough was probably a little more than a ball deep but its kind of thin. My ball had rested down in a bare area but surrounded by grass so if I hadn't of almost stepped on it I probably wouldn't have found it. For the most part its pretty playable though.

I wasn't in a bunker but they looked decent.

Customer service was great considering they got me out earlier and because it was a little dry they had a couple of marshals out there making sure people had plenty of water.

All in all for the price its not bad. I think they are doing maintenance the 2nd week of October and it might be worth waiting. For the price and considering other courses are also performing maintenance I could be swayed either way right now.
12 Likes.
Had to drop a coworker off at the airport yesterday and decided to try and get on. I called the starter and asked about the wait list, his response was "what wait list". I couldn't believe my ears and rushed over. I got there and a 2some just teed off and there wasn't anyone else scheduled to go for another 20 minutes. I teed off ny myself and crushed the first 7 holes in about an hour then everything came to a grinding halt from 8 on. Joined up with the 2some in front of me and we finished at 4:30 but played much slower. Pretty strong wind out there, probably 2 club difference.

Greens the best part of the course. Much faster than I thought, rolled my first couple well by. Generally good but this course gets a ton of play and so there are ball marks but honestly not as many as I anticipated.

Fairways are decent. A couple of areas are dried out but not what I consider in play. It does seem like with the maintenance they have focused the water on the greens and fairways.

Rough is well rough. Never thick to begin with and has dried out a bit and there are some dirt areas if you stray off the beaten path. However the rough on the right side of 12 is incredibly long. I'm not even sure you'd want to play it if you did find it.

Sand looks horrible but plays much better than it looks unless of course you find a footprint like I did.

On of the better value courses in the area but just be prepared for some slow rounds.
11 Likes.
Played a couple times this week and overall conditions are good but you can tell the summer has taken its toll.

Greens are still great though. The pace is deceptive, more roll on them than they look. They are getting water on them so they are not that firm. I don't remember a significant amount of divots on them but there are always a few.

Fairways are good. You're starting to see more browning but overall the turf is good to hit from.

The rough is probably where I've seen the most change. It's starting to thin out and there are very dirt spots throughout.

No problem with the sand is typical. I had a couple of lies that the ball was half way below the surface. Not necessarily a fried egg but definitely not expect that kind of lie with this type of sand.
9 Likes.
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