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Played with the Guru's yesterday which was a great group of guys. Had a lot of fun out there. It really felt like a country club yesterday. Like Steve said we let a single play through on 11 and after that there was no one even close to us. I make this drive to play here because I think its a solid golf course which is always in great condition and the staff is nothing but the best. When I was driving and checking the temperatures I was worried the course would be browning and drying out but it was not. While it was pretty close to 100 out there the course is in great shape. If I lived closer this would be my go to course.

Greens were great. Putts rolled great, never saw any balls jump off line or any bad spots on the greens.

Fairways were in great shape and I didn't see too much divot damage out there either.

I was in one fairway bunker and it was pretty thin which was fine for the fairway but honestly I didn't really look at the greenside to see if they were the same.

Side note - still hate 18.
12 Likes.
Teed off today at 6:30 and finished a hair over 4 hours. I'd say the summer is starting to take its toll. Conditions are still good but a notch below what they previously were.

Greens are good. I thought they were a little slower than normal. Too many ball marks on the green. Greens are still firm.

Fairways are showing some wear. Divot damage and some dry spots out there. I'm not sure what it is about the layup area on 17 but the fairway just can't seem to be consistent. I've noticed this since it first opened.

Rough isn't bad but the ball can settle. Actually someone in our group did lose one so it can be deep. You can probably hit anything out as there are more bare spots compared to before. There were only a couple of times that I couldn't hit what I wanted.

Wasn't in a bunker but they look like normal.

Maintenance is scheduled in 3 weeks which the course will need by that then. Actually when I finished they started punching the practice green. While my review may seem overly negative I'm trying to consider a non-resident. I think for a resident it's a good value and test of golf.
14 Likes.
Played in the men's club today and tee time was 7:45 but we started a little earlier. Overall pace was great. A little waiting here and there but we finished in 4:15.

Pretty much would agree with Rat's review. I missed 6 greens today and 3 of those times my lie was pretty crappy. It was off some dead spot or hard pan. But there were also some areas in the rough that was super thick. I mean this was Farmers thick. I don't know if they haven't gotten to cut them yet or not but the rough is just a mixed bag right now.

I think the greens are great. Yes they are firm but putting wise they are fair. I think the par 3 greens have a few ball marks that were not properly repaired that didn't look as good but putted fine.

I think it's a pretty good time to get out here and play.
10 Likes.
Played a couple of times in the morning the last couple of days and the course is in really good shape. The marina layer was out both time and one time it was so thick we couldn't see more than 50 yds and it didn't clear up until about hole 15. The good thing was the moisture is staying on the course so while other areas are drying out for the summer that doesn't seem to be the case here...yet.

Greens are back to being firm but not as firm as before the punching. Balls still release a bit but just not as much as I remember from before. Maybe some of the moisture on the greens had something to do with that too. Just an average pace on the green speed. I thought you could be aggressive with putts. I played with a couple of guys from England who were making a trip throughout California and they commented that these were the slowest greens had played so far. But they had just played Poppy Hills which I think is probably why.

Fairways were in great shape with the exception of a couple of spots. They are putting in a new drainage on #4 and #13 so there were some workers out there on those holes. Also #17 had more damage/bare spots than the other holes. Not sure why but it always seems to be the case on that hole.

Tee boxes were good. I noticed the crew had filled in a lot of the divot damage on them. Even the par 3s while may have had some "fresh" divots there was plenty of room to tee it up. All of them were pretty level too.

Bunkers were pretty heavy/wet. They could use a raking but there was plenty of sand in them so they were good to hit from. This seemed to be the case whether it was a fairway or greenside bunker too.

With the City Am and the Junior Worlds coming up the course is looking good so its definitely worth a look as a resident.
9 Likes.
Played in a company tournament on Thursday so the round was long. Finished in about 5 hours 15 minutes. Overall the course is in pretty good shape. Greens were pretty good, smooth but just a tad slow for my taste. These are relatively flat greens so I think you won't be surprised by the breaks here. Pretty soft too.

Fairways are good. Didn't notice an excessive amount of divot damage or bare/brown spots. Ball sat up nicely.

Rough is nothing to think about. Not penalizing at all unless you hit it in someone's yard.

Wasn't in any bunkers but they looked ok.

Service was great everyone was helpful and the were all hustling to get us out on time. I'm not sure what the rack rate is but you're a fan of this layout you'll probably like the conditioning of the course right now.
6 Likes.
Had a 6:20 time this morning and by the 2nd hole we let the 3 some behind us go thru and the 2some behind them go on 3. After that there was no one behind me us and we finished at 4 1/2 hours. Real weird there weren't that many people out as there were 3somes open holes etc.

I'll echo the last couple of reviews. Overall the conditions are really great right now. Greens roll pretty smooth and quick too. Had a couple of putts and chips get away from me. Had some trouble icky pin positions.

Fairways are nice too but could use a little trim. I hit some drives longer than normal so I think they are rolling out well.

Rough provides enough of a difference to matter. It's certainly not the thickest I've seen but I did lose a ball which even in the area I was looking didn't seem that deep but with this grass balls can just settle in.

Greenside bunkers were a little disappointing. Caught a couple bad breaks and had some lies with not a lot of sand underneath. Fairway bunkers I had better luck with more sand and actually playable. My partners had better luck in the greenside bunkers so I think it was just luck.

Conditions are really nice right now so if you have been on the fence I think. Ow might be a good time to play it. Certainly worthy for the residents.
12 Likes.
Was first off this morning by myself as the 2some that was scheduled to be first kindly let me jump ahead of them on the first tee. Only a brief hold up on #3 as the maintenance workers was finishing watering the green but other than that I really didn't have anyone holding me up and the 2some behind me was about a 1/2 hole behind me. Finished in 2 1/2 hours.

Greens are actually pretty good. A little slow first thing in the morning with the water on them but pretty smooth. I did see some unrepaired ball marks out there and being first off it was probably from yesterday. I'd imagine they'd get much faster was the green dries out.

Fairways have improved with the exception of hole 12. They are doing some resodding there again. It seems like they can't get the fairway down there right. More consistent grass throughout I thought. Previously you'd get some patchy areas but there are far less from what I saw. There were some wet spots in the fairways from the overnight watering.

Rough has some thickness to it. I actually had to search for my ball on one and it settled down just to the right of the fairway bunker. Its still hit or miss with some areas that are not bad to hit from.

Tee boxes are generally good. I recall the markers on hole 10 are not in a good spot as it was kind of uneven. Par 3s had some divot damage but looked to be filled in.

Overall a very enjoyable course and with these conditions certainly worth a look before they punch in a couple of weeks.
8 Likes.
Played in the men's club today with the greens being punched a week and a half ago. Pace was at 5 hours.

Greens are not very good right now. Sanded and slow and it is this reason that I would say to wait a couple of weeks before playing.

Fairways are fine those were punched a while ago and I see no effects from that. I think they could use a little cut but they were fine.

Rough isn't too bad either. Not that much to penalize you but enough to make you consider it.

Sand was great, plenty of it too. Didn't see a bad one out there.

Tee boxes still show signs of punching but it's fine to tee off from.

Bottom line is wait.
10 Likes.
Played with the Gurus today and it was like a country club out there. No one around us except for some annoying foursome behind us (j/k). Pro shop was great, checked in and got my range token and they said we could basically go anytime we had our foursome ready.

Fairways are really great to hit from. I don't recall seeing much in the way of divot damage. They were mowed nice and provided good rolls. I hit 11/13 of these fairways and it was a shame I could not capitalize more on this.

Don't even ask me about the greens. I give up, I cannot read these to save my life. I thought the greens didn't look fast but they roll more than you think. There were a few bumps but generally everything rolled pretty darn well. Most greens are not as firm when I played here last time but still releases a bit.

Wasn't in any bunker so the others will have a chime in on those.

Tee boxes were great. 15 and 17 were way back too, brutal. Maybe some of the par 3 had some divots but there was ample spots to tee up.

Absolutely love this course and I think it's a solid test of golf. I think it plays harder than the rating especially when that wind kicks up. If I lived closer this would be my home course and as long as Johnny lines up these outings here I will make the trip from SD.
21 Likes.
Played in a tournament on Friday and I was told to expect a long round and it was 6 hours long to be exact. Everyone working here was super friendly and helpful.

Greens were probably the best part of the course however I thought they were on the slow side. A few too many ball marks if you ask me but I fault the golfers and it wasn't all from the tournament. Some look like they had been there. I don't think these greens are too tricky to read. Generally what you see is what you'll get.

Fairways are ok. There are quite a few dead spots out there but you'll get a decent lie.

Tee boxes were all over the place. A couple of times I thought why could they move this up or back a couple yards. Why am I hitting off of dirt with a few pieces of grass.

Rough is not penalizing. It never seemed to have any effect on my shot.

It's been several years since I have played here but I don't know if some of these bunkers are considered waste bunkers or not but some of these had no sand.

I have always liked the layout. I think this course can be quite challenging but I'd like to see some improvements before I come back.
8 Likes.
Played yesterday with a 7:15 tee time and finished in 4 hours 15 mins. Could have been a little faster but the group 2 ahead of us fell a little behind. But as we were finishing there were 3 groups on 2 (yikes).

Like Rat said the greens are firm which can't be emphasized enough. All shots need to be played to the front and let them roll. I think I gave the greens too much respect because I came up short on quite a few but I still think they are pretty fast. Because they are so firm there are not too many ball marks and it was actually hard to find my ball marks.

Fairways had been punched. Some to be more recent than others. Never bothered me and never had a bad lie in them.

Rough is down a bit but it could still settle down and be a little more difficult. I was probably a couple yards away from my partner and he could barely get is out and mine was sitting up and I actually almost hit it over the green.

I was in 2 greenside bunkers and the sand was nice. I was able to splash both out with a good amount of sand.
12 Likes.
Played in another men's club tournament today and generally conditions are similar to my review last week BUT you can tell they are preparing for the maintenance in a couple of days. Actually the fairways on holes 12-18 have already been punched.

Greens are still great. I thought I putted pretty well except I kept leaving myself with these tricky 2-3 footers. They got some speed on them so putts did roll good. Some ball marks there but they were very smooth to putt on.

Bunkers are great too. I was able hit some nice bunker shots without the fear of bottoming out.

Tees are generally good. I did notice some dryness and divot damage on the par 3s. Actually on the first tee box I almost broke my tee the ground was so hard.

I'd say wait until after the maintenance to come back so give it a few weeks if you are thinking of playing here.
10 Likes.
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