My buddy and I played Friday 7/3 teeing off@12:020 and joining another twosome. They played blues and we the whites. I hadn't played this course in y... » More

My buddy and I played Friday 7/3 teeing off@12:020 and joining another twosome. They played blues and we the whites. I hadn't played this course in years and I think the overall conditions are pretty solid by most muni standards. Generally good coverage on the tees and fairways with good lies. Rough could get thicker and costly at times but was generally green and maintained. Bunkers were pretty clean, firm-ish, and rakes were being used. The greens were pretty clean and running a quick medium but not too quick. Minimal pitch marks. Pace varied but wasn't too bad overall — a little over 4.5 if I recall. If you like the course or want to try it out, I can recommend it.

On a totally personal note, I have only played it a very few times over the years and I find it tediously long for my game, even from the whites. A lot of long, mostly straight, fours that seem like short fives to me and frequently narrow windows in the tree lined fairways to make offline shots that much more costly. Too often I needed to hit perfect drive and long second shots to have chance at par and I'm not that consistent. It wore on me at some point. I think it is noteworthy that in roarksown1's review, being required to play from the reds seemed to make it a more enjoyable experience. If I go back, I will have to try that. But conditions are good, mine is a subjective opinion, and it is worth judging for yourself. It is the more popular of the two courses so that says something about me and the course. Enjoy.
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Tuesday, 5/19 I booked a last minute 2:10 start online as a single and ran over in time for most of a small bucket and teed off, playing the whites. ... » More

Tuesday, 5/19 I booked a last minute 2:10 start online as a single and ran over in time for most of a small bucket and teed off, playing the whites. The overall course is in solid shape. Tee boxes are pretty consistently level with good coverage. Fairways offered good lies and I don't recall any bad patches. Rough could vary, being mostly recoverable but with some thicker sections. Missed all the bunkers but stepped in one to check the sand and it was good. Not exactly groomed, but not bad overall as far as footprints, etc. Green surrounds tended to more often be on the lush side vs. thin. The greens themselves are still exhibiting the residual waffle pattern from the last aeration. Medium speed on the quick side (don't let the pattern suggest you need to putt harder) the rolls were true enough and I didn't notice any bouncing or deflection but, aesthetically, it will probably be a couple of weeks before the pattern has smoothed out. They putt better than they look and after a couple of holes, I settled into it and the visual was a not factor. As long as you know what you might be looking at, I still recommend it for play.

Pace was very good on the front nine and slowed into the back nine but the net was a surprisingly speedy 3.75 hrs. The other mentionable was early in the back nine the wind came up and brought the smoke from the Simi fires. Otherwise, I was initially paired with a young couple who were unsettled they would not be playing alone. They went back the starter while I teed off but he sent them back to join me. She supposedly being a beginner, piped her drive down the middle. It was wide open ahead, so halfway down the first fairway after my second shot, I told them I'd go ahead so they could play alone, which they appreciated. Single through nine, I was joined by a twosome on the tenth and finished as a threesome, probably smelling of smoke.
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