best greens i ever played. they told us the greens were still a little slow from aeration, but they were 9.5 on stimpe meter. tough driving on most holes. but great golf course. best greens around.

best greens i ever played. they told us the greens were still a little slow from aeration, but they were 9.5 on stimpe meter. tough driving on most holes. but great golf course. best greens around.

Man, this golf course is in super shape. A few months ago, it had dry fairways, now, its lush and beautiful. The greens are perfect, very fast and true. Sand quality was great. Difficulty of this golf... Continue »

Man, this golf course is in super shape. A few months ago, it had dry fairways, now, its lush and beautiful. The greens are perfect, very fast and true. Sand quality was great. Difficulty of this golf course is the driving part. If you can keep your drives on the fairways 60 percent of the time, a good score should be in stored. Used a 2 for 1 coupon from red dot that made today's round really enjoyable.

Fairways very thin and some bare spots still exist but they are slowly coming back a bit. Greens are great but ball marks need to be repaired. Fellow players always repair your divots and when you see... Continue »

Fairways very thin and some bare spots still exist but they are slowly coming back a bit. Greens are great but ball marks need to be repaired. Fellow players always repair your divots and when you see divots that have been overlooked or not repaired properly take the time to repair them even if they are not yours! Greens roll very true and are quite fast.

As with all first timers, I have to agree with all the comments about this cousre. Great layout, great greens, very poor fairways. I really didn't like the big oaks in my landing areas on more than a ... Continue »

As with all first timers, I have to agree with all the comments about this cousre. Great layout, great greens, very poor fairways. I really didn't like the big oaks in my landing areas on more than a few holes. As stated by many others, wait for the fairways to come back before trying, unless a big discount is offered.

I played today and yes, the fairways are a little brown due to the lack of water at the course. But this course is great anyway. These are easily the best greens i have ever played on. They spin on yo... Continue »

I played today and yes, the fairways are a little brown due to the lack of water at the course. But this course is great anyway. These are easily the best greens i have ever played on. They spin on your approach shots and roll fast and true when you putt. Im a junior so it was only 20 dollars, but I had to walk in 100+ degree heat. It was definatley worth it though. This course will be outstanding when the fairways go back to normal.
I dont know why this course is rated like a 4 right now, even with the dead fairways it is a lot better than that. I fired a 72 even with the "terrible" fairways you guys talk about.This course is not as hard as you guys say it is. It is pretty tough but it is not unfair or rediculous. I will definatley be back.

Played the valley course the day before
father's day, as a treat to myself. What a
dissappointment! Fairways were terrible-
being thin and brown-out.
Greens were adequate,however, I would
rate my... Continue »

Played the valley course the day before
father's day, as a treat to myself. What a
dissappointment! Fairways were terrible-
being thin and brown-out.
Greens were adequate,however, I would
rate my first and probable only visit to this
course as "disappointing". I know it may have
its seasons, but for an "unprivate club that
plays like one",it ain't worth it. Hate to say
it but, even on a discounted visit it came up
woefully short of my expectations.
Rude Dog

I don't think I have seen a course in this kind of condition in a long time. This course makes Knollwood look like Augusta.

I don't think I have seen a course in this kind of condition in a long time. This course makes Knollwood look like Augusta.

Played yesterday, 7/1, and as reported the fairways are a mess. We played with a member who told us that the main water pump broke early in the season, and it took a few weeks to get it fixed right. A... Continue »

Played yesterday, 7/1, and as reported the fairways are a mess. We played with a member who told us that the main water pump broke early in the season, and it took a few weeks to get it fixed right. And of course, by then it was too late.

Besides having to find a patch of grass to hit from in the fairway, I thought the course was great. We played both courses, and we liked the Valley much better, although the Mountain's fairways were in slightly better shape. The only design element that I wasn't so fond of was the big tree in the fairway of number 9, but then again, I hit my drive in the junk on the right, so it wasn't what caused my double bogey. The greens were outstanding. The card in the clubhouse said they were rolling at 11. But they were true. What fun to have putts go where you aim them.

I'll definately be back in the fall when the fairways are back in... nice course, truly great greens, nice isolated location, great staff and facilities.

Played on 6-15-03. The staff and facilities are great. Excellent range, clubhouse and snack bar facilities. The course, however, was another issue. If you like desert/target golf, you might like t... Continue »

Played on 6-15-03. The staff and facilities are great. Excellent range, clubhouse and snack bar facilities. The course, however, was another issue. If you like desert/target golf, you might like this course. However, b/c of the designer's well-intentioned efforts toward environmental concerns, be prepared for inconsistent fairway conditions. They let the Bermuda grass fairways stay brown here, and in many places, it is ROCK HARD. That condition results in increased roll, so many of the holes play much shorter than the scorecard indicates (if the wind is down, which it was during our round). The layout of the course is overly penal in nature. Be prepared, if you're an average golfer, to lose a couple of sleeves. After the round, I am now an expert in desert flora and fauna. It was brutal to see fairly decent shots punished so harshly. For example on 18, there is a pretty waterfall guarding the green on the right, but absolutely no bailout area on the left. You either hit a terrific high shot to a firm green, or lose it right and left. It is a tight, tight course, and the wind was down when we played. Finally, the GPS was terrible. The "computer" layout of the hole was virtually worthless, and the scorecard didn't show the hole layout either. Plus, they don't sell yardage books. So, as a first timer, be prepared to simply guess where you're supposed to hit the ball.