Took a chance to try Los Verdes without a tee time. I thought that the threat of rain would keep the people away, and I guessed correctly. No problem getting out. I was concerned about back nine play, but not an issue today. The staff here is always great. Very friendly and accommodating.

Course is in nice shape right now, particularly the greens. Rolled true, rea... » More

Took a chance to try Los Verdes without a tee time. I thought that the threat of rain would keep the people away, and I guessed correctly. No problem getting out. I was concerned about back nine play, but not an issue today. The staff here is always great. Very friendly and accommodating.

Course is in nice shape right now, particularly the greens. Rolled true, reasonably quick, and receptive. Good coverage in the fairways. Found a few bunkers, most had well maintained sand.

Still the best value in golf ! As long as you get out early and avoid the 5+ hour rounds, this is the most bang for your buck you can get in Southern California.
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Played on Friday afternoon and the pace was excellent because I think we finished at 4 hours which was a pleasant surprise for a Friday afternoon. I had played Legends a few years ago but never the Champions course. The greens were not very good and still need a few more weeks of healing. They were wobbly, a little too sandy and a little long for my liking.

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Played on Friday afternoon and the pace was excellent because I think we finished at 4 hours which was a pleasant surprise for a Friday afternoon. I had played Legends a few years ago but never the Champions course. The greens were not very good and still need a few more weeks of healing. They were wobbly, a little too sandy and a little long for my liking.

Fairways were good when I found them. Didn't remember any bad lies here but given the vast property this is it is certainly hard to maintain everything. So I'm sure there were some areas out there I just can't remember anything significant. I don't know who designed this one but I thought some of the visuals off the tee was a little deceptive. Bunkers that I thought were in play aren't and vice versa.

Rough is not bad. It didn't affect my club selection at all but off the fairways you do have some hillsides, water, native areas, etc.

Sand traps were bad too. I was in 2 bunkers and there was no sand in the 2 I was in. I was hitting off clay. I know another guy in our group encountered the same thing on another hole so I don't know how wide spread this issue is.

Tee boxes were good. There are some holes where there are some options on the tee but all had good grass coverage.

I did like the layout of the Champions course compared to the Legends course but I think condition wise I'd wait until getting out here. I'd certainly like to get back out here to see how it plays when the conditions are better.
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Played Friday 10/22 with friends. Pace of play was pretty slow, greens were nice, rough was really inconsistent, fairways were thin but very playable. Biggest problem is the bunkers. From 1-18 the bunkers need a lot of work. Standing water, mud, rocks, and no material at all in the bottom. There are a lot of good things about this course (including the bar), but the bunkers are... » More

Played Friday 10/22 with friends. Pace of play was pretty slow, greens were nice, rough was really inconsistent, fairways were thin but very playable. Biggest problem is the bunkers. From 1-18 the bunkers need a lot of work. Standing water, mud, rocks, and no material at all in the bottom. There are a lot of good things about this course (including the bar), but the bunkers are a mess.
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