Late afternoon Oaks/Creek nines 4.5 hour round on a busy course. It's been over a year since playing here after having ... » More

Late afternoon Oaks/Creek nines 4.5 hour round on a busy course. It's been over a year since playing here after having been a member for many years. The staff is always great and the practice facilities always busy. The carts are still looking good with gps that is somewhat accurate. They do allow walkers which saves you $20 per player. The tee boxes were in great shape with total coverage. The rough still is very thick but only a few inches long but still difficult to locate a ball in and usually hard to advance it as far as you would like. The fairways were all in fantastic condition with plush green grass cut at just the right length. They were not damp or dry which allowed for good roll until the rough gets in the way. The traps all have nice sand and are well groomed. There are some with large pebbles that find their way onto the greens during the day. The greens were very nice with total green coverage but very slow. The practice greens were quick as usual but the entire round our group found them ALL to be extremely slow. Probably the slowest I have ever seen them in the 40 years of playing here. They held shots well and rolled true but very slow with not as much break as usual. The weekday afternoon rates make the place reasonable. The morning rates and weekend rates have become too much for the average golfer to stomach in comparison to other local facilities. Love this place but will only be out when the rates allow.
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Green speed getting faster and faster!!!

Played on 02/26/2025. Great weather. Perfect temp. Greens rolled true, fws were wonderful to hit off of. Sand traps were... » More

Played on 02/26/2025. Great weather. Perfect temp. Greens rolled true, fws were wonderful to hit off of. Sand traps were thin, but I wasn't in them at all today, so my comment is based off my playing partners experience and what I observed. The course is ingenious considering what little Coore & Crenshaw had to work with. If there is one rule to keep in mind while playing this course, it is this: if the green is against the property's perimeter fencing, play to the safe side. If you get overly aggressive, you will lose your ball. This course is a must play in the Phoenix area. A pleasure to play.
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Played on 02/24/2025. First time playing here and I enjoyed it. One of Coore & Crenshaws earlier courses. Some forced ca... » More

Played on 02/24/2025. First time playing here and I enjoyed it. One of Coore & Crenshaws earlier courses. Some forced carries here and there, but also some width as well. Spectacular views of the valley floor and mountains in the distance. $325 is steep anywhere, but it's become the norm here in Phoenix in high season. Getting the day pass and playing both would give the player the most value. One of the best courses in the greater Phoenix area. If you are coming here, it should be one of the must plays.
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Out early on a mild morning. Not too busy, except for a lot of maintenance to deal with, which I guess is a good thing? ... » More

Out early on a mild morning. Not too busy, except for a lot of maintenance to deal with, which I guess is a good thing? The greens will be punched in a couple weeks, so trying to take advantage of the good greens now. Just learned we will be losing our director of agronomy. I have mixed emotions about that, because "the devil you know". I spoke with some of the maintenance staff and all agree there is room to improve, so I will be optimistic about the future. However, right now the course is in pretty decent condition, the best it has been in some time.
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After a couple of bike rides this week it was time to get some sun on the legs and go for a walk with the clubs. DeepSe... » More

After a couple of bike rides this week it was time to get some sun on the legs and go for a walk with the clubs. DeepSea14 joined me mid day at Baylands for a great afternoon of golf on the links style course. Unfortunately, the course was in poor shape. Greens were fine in that they rolled fairly smooth at great medium fast pace. Greens were a tad on the firm side but not too bad. Green complexes here are multi tiered and definitely offer some challenge. Fairways were pretty beat up. Just short of horrible. Very patchy grass with several thin and dirt areas throughout. Tee boxes were beyond horrible. In fact horrible would have been welcomed. Most tee boxes were 98% dirt.

The two sand traps I was in were both ok, One was half filled with a lot of fluffy sand while the other half was a bit thin. Still very playable and acceptable. POP of play was right at about 4 hrs. No one in front or behind us on the front nine then we caught the Bay Area traffic on the back nine and waited on every shot. But not too bad. Right now, I can’t recommend this course at the price range but I’ll try again in a month or so and see if it improves.
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Played today. Course is shaping up very nicely. Tee boxes all mowed, cleaned and in great shape. Fairways all mowed, cle... » More

Played today. Course is shaping up very nicely. Tee boxes all mowed, cleaned and in great shape. Fairways all mowed, cleaned and beginning to fill in so lies are improving and roll out is very good. Traps are kept cleaned so playing early is premium for best shape and all new sand in them has improved them completely. Very little rough to deal with so that is a plus. Greens have come back from aeration and fungus removable to be really great on all 18. Customer service continues to be A+ and the restaurant is serving good food at very reasonable prices.
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played sun 2/23, 8:30am, cool day with a moderated breeze. Course in decent muni shape. Not ideal, but very playable..... » More

played sun 2/23, 8:30am, cool day with a moderated breeze. Course in decent muni shape. Not ideal, but very playable... divots in the fairway, ball marks not repaired, etc. Greens running a fast 10... bumpy, lots of ball marks. The one bunker i landed, hole 16 greenside. it was hard packed, no sand.. was able to chip it out. I always enjoy this course, not long, but not easy. Can go low here due to shorter holes, but overall, need to hit it straight and putt well on these huge greens.
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Our men's club was kicked off Native Oaks due to a tournament so Dos Osos was gracious enough to host us this week. They... » More

Our men's club was kicked off Native Oaks due to a tournament so Dos Osos was gracious enough to host us this week. They charged us $69 for a Sat at 7:30 AM and that is a total steal for this place. I had always seen this course online but the condition reviews were always 50/50 so I never pulled the trigger. I am unsure if they have new owners, but I do know JC Golf has taken over and they are putting a ton of money into the course. The starter was very friendly and was talking to us about all of the work that they have done and what is still upcoming on their list. All of the sand has been replaced, and most of the greens have been redone with the others still having some work done on them. Most of the fairways had great coverage with a few of them looking like they were fully reseeded. Rough is a little rough around the edges but the staff mentioned they are focusing on the greens and fairways first. The carts are basic with no accessories but work just fine I assume once they have their Grand Re-Opening they will replaced but for now, they are fine.

I really enjoyed the layout as there are some good doglegs and a nice mix of lengths on the par 3's. Their Signature hole with the fountain will need some work as I was told the fountain hasn't been on in many years and the lake is stagnant. Comparing it to similar courses nearby I would put it behind Native Oaks and Mt. Woodson but given the conditions, I would gladly play here as long as it's in the $80 range on weekends.
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First out on a cool morning, which quickly turned into a really beautiful morning, clear and warm. Although there are st... » More

First out on a cool morning, which quickly turned into a really beautiful morning, clear and warm. Although there are still numerous areas in some of the fairways which are in desperate need of attention. (Like some actual grass) the fairways have improved. Greens rolled well and had decent speed, while still receptive. Tee boxes are improved as have the bunkers with the addition of new sand in spots. I still feel the sand in the greenside bunkers need to be modified in how they are raked to allow for the club to pass through, rather than just having the top layer groomed and a too firm subsurface underneath.
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Morning weekday 4.25 hour round with a couple of singles. The staff is great and the practice facilities adequate for t... » More

Morning weekday 4.25 hour round with a couple of singles. The staff is great and the practice facilities adequate for the numbers they generally have playing. The carts are nice enough with very basic GPS that is not real accurate. The tee boxes had good coverage with a couple of them being slightly sloped. There are many forced carry holes throughout the round starting with the first tee. The rough was in good shape and short enough to advance the ball but penal in sections. The fairways all had really good coverage and provided usually good lies. You can find places that are thin and maybe slightly dry but they're where you probably shouldn't be! The traps all had good sand in them but some were damp and heavy. The greens where great! The greens are in the best shape I've seen them in ever over the years of playing here. The firmness of them required a well struck shot with some spin to get the ball to hold. Many shots into the greens would have quite a bit of roll out. There were very few ball marks and the lines held well with a good roll. They are very large which provides a better chance at finding them and keeping your ball on them. The pace of play was great with the marshal being seen a few times during the round. The wildlife was out on the course as you usually see here as well. The course is in very good condition and the weekday rates are reasonable. Recommended
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Course continues to be in very nice condition with most nights in the mid 40's and most days in the mid 70's. Played sev... » More

Course continues to be in very nice condition with most nights in the mid 40's and most days in the mid 70's. Played several times this week in a 1-2 club wind with good POP.

Tees and fairways lush and well maintained. Sand near immaculate. Rough mostly dormant Bermuda. Lies can vary from looking like it was teed up on a tee box to sitting down so much advancing it with a longer club probably not happening within a small area.

Bermuda greens are the hi-light here. Smooth, firm and medium fast. Chips w/o spin downhill may not stop until they reach the other side fringe. Almost no ball marks, putts roll really well.

Restaurant good for a golf course. Customer service excellent both inside/outside the club. Practice facilities and the GPS on the carts both excellent. Men's lounge nice place to have a meal or get a drink with numerous big screen TV's in a friendly atmosphere.

I previously commented on what IMO was the over reach and heavy handed approach of a few employees and volunteers here. Someone must have listened to my detailed critique with numerous examples I had witnessed others be subjected to on club survey's. At least in my presence, the few that were going overboard are much more customer service and make the guest feel welcome oriented. Nice and welcome improvement in one of the few complaints I have had about anything in my 4 years here.
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