If not for GDR23's review from Monday I would not have even thought about stopping here on my way home from Monterey. Th... » More

If not for GDR23's review from Monday I would not have even thought about stopping here on my way home from Monterey. Thanks Gary. I have not played here since 2020 during Covid when the course was one of the first to open and stay open. I called in the AM before I left and they got me a time that would work just fine. Gary's review is what I expected and exactly what I found. But minus the wind and of course warmer given my time of play. A ball striker I am not (maybe occasionally) but he is correct for this course when it happens. I love the layout and especially the changes in elevation throughout. Truly a different experience than so many of our S CA courses layouts. And in all the time I have had the chance to play here I have never heard it calledLa Pirana but I can understand why. Highly recommended. Even if it is a long drive for most of us GKer's in S CA. A bucket list item for sure.
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Played on 4/9/25. They told us the greens had been punched a month ago and should be in good shape. They were 80% back. ... » More

Played on 4/9/25. They told us the greens had been punched a month ago and should be in good shape. They were 80% back. Had not been cut nor rolled, back 9 was thick, lush, almost shaggy, slow. Needed a cut and a real roll to flatten them out like they would normally. We expected better. Just wish they would tell people the truth, instead of enticing people to come play and get them disappointed so they don't get negative feedback, what it is about that is a problem for golf courses. It's not good business, because we will report it to everyone!
Rest of course is good. Fairways are nice. There is some rough but not too penal, they had recently cut away some of the more tall winter grasses so that made it easier.
Sand is still that clumpy type so it can get crusty in spots but nor too hard to play out of.
POP was just at 5, which was fine as there was a big event in front of us that we only caught around the 16th hole, which was not too bad.
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Made last minute 4:20 tee time at Woodley yesterday, raced cross town and arrived into the pro shop as they announced my... » More

Made last minute 4:20 tee time at Woodley yesterday, raced cross town and arrived into the pro shop as they announced my name on the tee. I joined a twosome and another single, all pleasant guys. For Woodley the conditions were solid and typical for this flat, open course. Tee boxes here skew large and level with good coverage. Fairway grasses are mixed but were pretty consistent as to decent lies on the day. Rough here is usually very playable, less often a little thicker and costing some distance. Bunkers were clean, nicely groomed and on the firm side so the ball tended to sit up. Green surrounds were in good shape and I had success getting up and down on numerous holes. Green's surfaces were pretty clean at a reasonably quick speed that were enjoyable to putt on.

It is what it is, which is wide open and pretty forgiving so it compensated for a rushed, last minute, no warmup start late in the day. Pace was slow due to the group in front of us and I got through 12 holes before walking in, a little while after sunset. Without the group in front of us, probably would have gotten through 15 holes. Bottom line, with appropriate expectations, I was not disappointed and glad I got out.
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Played here Sun April 6, 10:30 tee time. 5:30 round. Finally made it out here as it's been on my list forever. My opin... » More

Played here Sun April 6, 10:30 tee time. 5:30 round. Finally made it out here as it's been on my list forever. My opinion on this is an interesting exercise. It's a beautiful scenic course.. the way it runs through the canyons and the POV of seeing other holes as patches of green littered through the brown mountains.. it's cool. It's in pretty good shape. Greens are moderately fast... like fast 11. the holes in it of itself are interesting holes... the knock on this course is it's gimmicky. And I'd agree with that. the holes are interesting, but too many circus type shots. I say it's a fun course to play, but it's not a great course. It was a sunny warm day with a 1-2 club wind all day. Course knowledge important. Very hilly, seems like most of the tee shots were 50-100 ft downhill. which again, is fun, but makes for a gimmicky course. They don't put rakes in the bunkers and they tell you to lift clean place your ball in the bunkers. And when the preround spiel is how slow the round is going to be... well... he wasn't wrong. I appreciate the heads up though. I wouldn't mind playing this a few times.. but not for the rack rate. Driving range is irons only. I don't think there was a drink cart going around... so hilly. Had fun.
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Played Sat April 5, 8am shotgun. Sunny, but cold and WINDY. This is in the city of Hurricane, and it felt like a hurric... » More

Played Sat April 5, 8am shotgun. Sunny, but cold and WINDY. This is in the city of Hurricane, and it felt like a hurricane. 30-40 mph winds all day, and it felt like most of the holes were into the wind. Beanie and jacket all round. A fun layout with great views. It winds at the bottom of a canyon, with homes/condos bordering the course.... before it climbs the walls on #12 and you play the next 7 holes up, on top of, and back down. Most of the holes you have to stay in play, with water and hazards littering the course. Greens running about a 11, grainy. You come back to the clubhouse after 11 for food and drinks. Small kitchen, plenty of booze. Cart girl comes around a few times. 5 hr round, had a blast. Worth a play.
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Played Fri april 4, and stayed here at the resort for 2 nights. 5:15 round. Sunny, windy day. Teed off at 10:30, a li... » More

Played Fri april 4, and stayed here at the resort for 2 nights. 5:15 round. Sunny, windy day. Teed off at 10:30, a little chilly to start, but warmed up and was short sleeves most of the round. Wind blowing at 30-40 mph.. .so definitely a 2-3 club wind. Greens firm and fast, running a solid 12.. I'd say 11 into the grain, a fast 13 down grain... downwind downgrain, forget: good luck. Course in amazing shape, as they are prepping for the LPGA event in a month. The PGA just signed a 10 yr contract as they were here in Oct. A wonderful, fun track that runs through a bed of lava rock... which is big Big Island vibes... who knew there was a volcano in Utah? A forecaddy is required, and let me tell you.. it's required to play... as there were multiple blind shots and he was very helpful with knowing where to miss. It's a rolling course, water on a few holes, lava rock everywhere... big greens. One pin placement was unplayable, as literally everyone in our group of 40 putted off the green. A pin on the top of a false front, so practically every putt was downhill downgrain downwind. but other than that, tough and fair. I would love to play this multiple times. The pro shop check in is on the opposite side of the resort as the first tee and driving range, which is weird... there is a ton of construction going on, which doesn't affect play, but a little effect on aesthetics. Food and nonalcoholic drinks are free before and during your round. There is a bar/kitchen at the driving range, so give yourself time to check in, drive over to the other side of the resort, and eat for free, in addition to warming up. They have a turnstand that serves tacos (birria, al pastor, fish, asada, tasty in that order) that you'll hit twice. They don't sell alcohol on the front 9 (2 different cities, 2 different alcohol rules). But the cart girl is totally free except for alcohol. They have a 19th hole, a 70 yd par 3 over water into a alcove green... totally cool. My guess is they jack up rack rates and resort rates once they are out of 'preview' period. the entire area is getting the Aspen treatment, so I expect the cost of everything to skyrocket in 10 years. Had a blast.

I rated it, but it's not showing, i imagine it's close to a '10'
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The North course is now a fully opened 18-hole course. Played the new front nine when it opened, don't remember how many... » More

The North course is now a fully opened 18-hole course. Played the new front nine when it opened, don't remember how many years ago. It is fully grown in and playing firm and fast.
I remember enjoying it the first time I played it and enjoyed it again this time. The new nine was good and playable but definitely could use some growing in time. A very unique layout, it holds pretty true to a links course. Course has lots of roll, pot bunkers, sod faced bunkers, with difficult and oddly shaped greens. I had 39 putts!

6382/118 from the tips, very reasonable. 15mph steady wind all day, pretty standard out here, and it added to the challenge. The front is a little more out in front of you, the back nine I would need another crack at. Wide open fairways but you need proper lines and angles to score well. The bunkers look cool, and I wish they actually had more of them, but they can be penal, good soft sand right now. The greens are all offset and tricky. The ones on the back are super firm, even heard the thwack on chips! Front pins on those greens were borderline unfair and they were mostly on the short holes. My advice, forget the flag and aim for the middle. The GPS app I was using didn't have the back nine and all the flags were white so hard to tell what part of the green they were on.

The back nine had more water, and some were slightly hidden. GolfNow has a few deal times a day, I think I paid $50 to walk with a coupon. They don't allow carts on Monday or Tuesday, and I think it is $55 to walk after 1PM on the regular website.
It's flat so not a tough walk even with some extra back and forth but with the wind it tired me out.

Haven't played a course like it anywhere in the area and it's a nice compliment to the south course. Worth the $50 hope it grows in nicely and they maintain it.
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Mid morning 4.5 hour round Oaks/Creek nines on a warm spring day. The staff is tops always and the practice facilities ... » More

Mid morning 4.5 hour round Oaks/Creek nines on a warm spring day. The staff is tops always and the practice facilities were busy as usual. The tee boxes were all trimmed with the par 3's still being mine fields. Maybe the maintenance crew could fill the numerous divots on the par 3's tees? The golfers surely don't. The rough has finally been cut down to a few inches which allows you to locate your ball. Making a decent shot and advancing your ball from the rough is not likely. The fairways have really filled in perfectly with fantastic coverage and great lies on every hole. Hitting a shot from the nearly perfect fairways is great and some roll out can occur with lower trajectory shots. The traps are all groomed very nice and all had plenty of surprisingly dry groomed sand! The greens all have total coverage and hold shots well. There were hardly any ball marks to be found and they were rolling much quicker than the last round. The speed is almost back to what you would find here in most rounds with some difficult to see lines. The course is in excellent condition and should continue to improve with the warmer weather ahead. Weekday rates are reasonable.
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Played this morning. The purpose of my trip to Monterey was to play PB and Spyglass with friends coming from the East Co... » More

Played this morning. The purpose of my trip to Monterey was to play PB and Spyglass with friends coming from the East Coast. Was not able to play PB but did join them for Spyglass. It has been many years since I played here last and having played it many times in the 70's and 80's (yeah I am old OK) and a few times over the years since, I was really glad to get back. Played the first few holes just great but after heading into the woods I became a different player. Funny how that works. But on the back nine the old me showed back up and saved my butt. What can you really say about this course (except what the hell happened to the green fees LOL) other than what many GKers have stated. Tee boxes were just fine. Fairways are in great shape. Heard no complaints from anyone in the bunkers (I missed them all lucky me). I did find the woods a few times but playing here that might be expected. And the greens were in great shape for chipping/putting all round. I think this was most likely a one and done for me and I am extremely happy that I got one more round in at Spyglass to take me further down the path in my golfing life.
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Tremendous midweek round at Angeles National with a 10:48am tee time on a gorgeous and hot April day in Sunland. The cou... » More

Tremendous midweek round at Angeles National with a 10:48am tee time on a gorgeous and hot April day in Sunland. The course is in very fine shape right now and the layout is just as tough as ever. You're either in the fairway here or you're in the desert - plain and simple.

We played from the white tees and it still gave us more than enough to handle. Even the 'short' holes are so strategically difficult that if you're in the wrong spot on the fairway, you're going to have to try something extreme to get back into play. This course has length, very strategic angles and bunkers, incredibly tough greens and even a few water features to boot.

Conditions are very nice right now with the greens being in super shape. They roll very fast, very true and very dangerous. I can't count how many times I blew past the hole thinking I had finally dialed in the speeds ... I had not (as evidenced by FIVE 3-putts - ugh). You will need some incredibly precise approaches to hold these greens as well as they're simply moving very quickly, but they're great fun right now.

Fairways had nice coverage but you will definitely find a few thin spots with the heat here bearing down on the course, and I dont' think that will ease up as summer approaches. Rough, where you can find it, is very playable and fun. Bunkers were mostly in good shape and I found a whole lot of them, while the tee boxes were also in very good condition.

Some of the cart routing is an adventure as you're looking to get to the next green or tee box, but the carts have a very good GPS system and are well-appointed. The snack shop near the golf shop is very good and convenient as well. We allowed a single to pass us at the third hole and it was smooth sailing the rest of the afternoon, finishing in under four hours. Amazing!

It was great to finally get back out to ANGC for the first time in years and hopefully it won't take that long again for the next time, and hopefully my game will be in better shape for its challenges.
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Played this morning with former colleagues now retired in Pacific Grove. Had not played here in sometime and happy to pl... » More

Played this morning with former colleagues now retired in Pacific Grove. Had not played here in sometime and happy to play it again. Course is in nice shape and glad we got out early ahead of tee box aeration. We did catch a few on back 9 but it was OK. Fairways played nicely. Greens putted and chipped great. Heard no complaints from those who found traps. But did from those who found the wonderful ice plant rough. A little cool to begin but sun came out quickly making the back 9 views terrific. Had a great bkfst after the round in the very nice restaurant. Only negative was the $89 green fee. No senior fee only standard fees and annual offers. You can walk for $65 but even that seems high to me for weekday golf. Oh well I don't play everyday so one round with old friends will do just fine.
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Had not played Indian Hills in a couple years, what happened the place is 100% better. Kikuyu grass has fairways full fo... » More

Had not played Indian Hills in a couple years, what happened the place is 100% better. Kikuyu grass has fairways full for the most part and lies are great. Greens coming out of punching will be good to go in another week. Traps around greens have sand just a bit thin, fairway traps more like hard pan with little give. Course has been cleaned up a lot and the Kikuyu grass has filled in the fairways and tee boxes (tee boxes are not level on many holes have to be a little generous with your tee location)., all in all would recommend going back out there if you have not played it in years as we had, very green right now and for a low end public course it is as good as I have played this year., (was amazed it is in much better shape than course down the street Jurupa Hills which used to be better, not now).
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