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Played on Tuesday 5/5. I have played here many times as it is near my son-in-law and I don't mind the drive. Last year I vowed to never play here again and the conditions seemed like nobody cared, but after seeing the lase review I thought I would give it a try and to my surprise this is by far the best condition I have ever seen this course. Check in was easy and COV19 precautions are in place in the clubhouse and on the course. They are still serving some food at the turn which was nice.

Tee boxes - a little chewed up ,but playable. A few are not level.
Fairways - Thick and lush, I have never seen them this green. #9 fairway is thin as they have always had problems getting grass to grow Last time I played here it was difficult to find good grass.
Rough - recently mowed and nice, some hard pan areas, but not as many as there used to be.
Greens - Nice with medium speed. A few bumps here and there, but nice to putt on. No damaged areas.
Bunkers - HORRIBLE, not a grain of sand to be found. Some with weeds and all are hardpan. There is a note on the carts thas bunkers should be played as non-hazards. I had a few balls actually take a big bounce out after hitting into the bunker on the fly and a few just roll out.
The course was busy but not overly crowded, but our POP was 5:45 and that was because of the pot smoking, beer drinking, lets all go to his ball and watch him hit Bros in front of us. We caught them on Hole 5 and then crawled the rest of the round. They would ony hit their tee shots when they saw us coming up. They must have been friends of somebody on the course as they stood on the 10th tee box BSing until they saw us come out of the snack area with our hot dogs. This is the my only big complaint.
I plan on going back next week as it was only $30 for a 12:45 tee time.
10 Likes.
Played Hidden Valley for the first time on 1/1/20 and may be the last (but never say never). Joined dconnally and a single that joined us, for a mostly pleasent day. Even though the reviews were harsh, I came into the day with an open mind. Playing the first hole was a good representation of what the day would hold. We all played the white tees because I am not a very long hitter, but the other two in the group could have played from the blues. From the blues the course is a different kind of beast. Conditions left a lot to be desired.
Tees - Chewed up and not level. I know the course is in the hills, but the tees need to be redone so that flat areas can be found.
Fairways. Never know what your lie will be, any where from hardpan to sitting nicely on green grass. There are many areas of dormant grass to be found, but it is still a little thin, but not bad. Mud was a big factor in a lot of the fairways.
Rough - short grass and hardpan, mud here too.
Bunkers - Never have I seen such a bad collection of bunkers in my life. Most are filled with water and should be considered small ponds and not bunkers. Dave lost a ball on the first hole after his ball "splashed" into a bunker on his second shot. The ball was never found. On the back nine, I forget which hole, Dave was pulling something out of the fairway bunker, or pond, and it turned out to be a whole windshield from a golf cart. For all we know there could be a whole cart in their too with Jimmy Hoffa in the passenger seat. There are a couple of bunkers on the course with no water, but they are just dirt and not raked at all. Hidden Valley should be ashamed of these conditions.
Greens - Best part of the course. They rolled nice with a medium/fast speed. The felt soft as you could leave spike marks, but the greens did not hold shots very well. Ball marks were found on the greens. Downhill putts and chips just don't stop. I think it's number 17, the green is just not fair, cant stop a ball anywhere near the hole. Everything funnels to the bottom left portion and the flag was upper right. Also during the round I noticed odd 2 foot stripes across the greens and it looked like the mower may be having problems, until I looks at my right hand and noticed that my finger were turning a little moldy, but taking a closer look, it was the greens, they had been painted.
Only had interaction with tthree staff members all day, the guy in the shop, the starter and we saw the beverage cart girl one during the round.
I have to say that I came away a little disappointed and may never make the trek here again. I am thankful for Dave and Troy as they made this day enjoyable.
10 Likes.
Played on Sunday the 8th and this was my first vist to Rams Hill and it wont be the last. As the other GKr's have mentioned, the course is in great shape. I haven't played a course this green in a long time. With the wind blowing and the elevation changes from fairway to green, choosing the correct club was at a premium.
As Dave mentioned it is a LONG drive to and from the course, but I have to say it is well worth it. Thanks to the staff (who are top notch) for having us and for help making this a very memorable day.
Note: When checking in ask for a scorecard with combo tees, the round played 6100 yards, instead 6300+ from the blues and under 6000 from the whites.
12 Likes.
Played on Monday, September 2nd. Tee'd off at Noon and PoP was 4:45, not bad for a holiday, with 2 and 3's going out. Chevelle's review is spot on. The one thing I will add is that there are a few fairways that show signs of recent punching (does not effect play) and the rough is growing back from recent punching or cutting (can effect lie). Fixed 4-6 ball marks on every green, otherwise they are in very good shape. The fairways are firm and you do get extra rollout.
Can be a tough course if not hitting it straight off the tee. Hole 16 is a beast of a tee shot is not a longish hitter. Saw the cart girl several times. One downfall about this course is that if you are looking for a bite to eat at the turn, you are out of luck because there is no turn, the clubhouse is not near any tee except number one. So eat before you tee off. Staff is always nice here. I will be back after the greens are healed from the upcoming punching.
9 Likes.
Played on Saturday with a GN tee time @ 11:00 for $40 with cart, not bad for a Saturday.. When I arrived they asked if I was willing to go out earlier, so I said yes and they told me I was on the tee. I arrived on the tee in a panic and grabbed a ball, tee and my driver and took a quick swing as other groups were waiting for me to get going. Wasn't able to get out of the play quick mode until after the 2nd hole. This was only my 2nd time playing this course and the last time was Christmas Day 2017, so memory wasn't working all that well. The course was in fine shape. Decent GPS on the carts.
Layout - Straight forward layout, with a few doglegs to make things interseting. Make sure you stay to the right on your drive, as trees can interfere with the second shot.
Tees - Mostly good, with the par threes chewed up like most par threes are, and a few tee boxes were slighty unlevel.
Faiways - Very good lies all day, very green and lush. The only thing I have to say about the fairways is the amount of goose droppings, they are evrywhere and these are equal opportunity geese, they drop on fairways that have lakes and don't have any water in site. Walking this course can get a little messy.
Greens - Good shape and rolled good, but a little slow for my taste. Down hill putts still have to be given a little thump to get the ball to the hole. Not too many unrepaired ball marks on this day.
Rough - thin and not very penal.
Bunkers - Good sand in all bunkers that I was in. Fairway bunkers were firm like a fairway bunker should be, but still had enough sand that a rake was needed. Greenside bunkers were in good shape and the only problems that I came upon was the bunk not raked very well. Not the courses fault. Not the best sand in the world, but very playable none the least.
Pace of play was at 4.5 hours and we waited on most shots. Beautiful day out with a nice breeze. I look forward to coming back.
11 Likes.
Played yesterday afternoon, told the boss I had an appointment with Dr. Green. Got a deal on GN for $13 w/cart, and I may have paid too much. Check in was easy as I think we may have been the only ones on the course.
The conditions may be poor at best. Have been here many times and though the conditions have never been great, this time they are almost unplayable.
Tees - Chewed up and unlevel. A few are hard as a rock and difficult to get a tee in the ground.
Fairways - Dryed out hard pan. If your lucky enough to find a patch of grass, you have been blessed by the golfing gods. The ball bounces all over the place, so a drive in the fairway can end up OB.
Rough, some spots hard pan, others long thick and difficult to hit out of.
Bunkers - Not a grain of sand in any bunker, but ironicly there are rakes in the traps, but they are so hard packed that a rake in not needed.
Greens - Actually are in very good shape, rolled great with a medium/fast speed. A pleasure to putt on. They are soft enough to hold a shot with ease.

On the way home I saw a billboard for some new housing they are building on the back nine which shows a lush green golf course (photoshop is alive and well).
With the conditions as bad as they are I will will not be back nor even recommend it to my worst enemies.
This could be a fun course to play as the course does have a lot of personallity. But it needs to be dug up and replanted. If you have a bad back, it's going to take a beating and there are a lot of bumps and holes to make the cart jar your back.
11 Likes.
First time playing Oak Creek and absolutely loved it. Played along with Nick, Larry and Kong and I want to thank the guys for a really fun round. Also, thanks to Oak Creek for having us and to Johnny for setting this up.
Not much I can add to the previous reviews on conditions.
Layout - FANTASTIC. So much fun and it makes you think. My favorite part of the course.
Greens - the best I have putted on in a long time. Did have to repair a few ball marks from morning rounds, but not too bad.
Fairways - The ball sat us nicely, and was a pleasure to play from.
Rough - Could be very thick and penal, or could be a little thin. Even had a hard time finding a florescent orange ball in the thick stuff. We don't get that thick rough very often in So Cal so hitting out of it took some good guess work.
Bunkers - Nice fluffy sand, just ask Nick about his plugged shot in the face a fairway bunker. The greenside bunker on 16 is perplexing, it looks like it's part of the waste area that runs down the left side of the fairway, BUT it had a rake in it and like I said, it was right next to the green. Was it a bunker or waste area.
Tee boxes - Mostly really nice, but towards the end of the day a few were seeing some wear and tear.
Customer Service - Very good friendly staff, from the guys in the golf shop, to the cart attendants to the beverage cart girl.

I would play here a lot more often for the right price. Normal rack rate is a little steep for this cheap dutchman, but If I can find a deal I will be back.
One more thing, the Reuben sandwich in the bar/grill is fantastic. One of the best I have ever had.
10 Likes.
A little late with this review. Played Reflection Bay for the first time on June 30th with the GK crew and I must say, all my expectations were met. Had a blast with Bill, Kathy and Wendy, can't wait to join them again sometime. As all the other reviews mentioned customer service was excellent. Everybody was happy to assist.
I found the course in great shape, and I saw a lot of it. Always had good lies in the fairways and the rough was not as penal as it could be, but it was in great shape and made one think about how to play out of it. The greens rolled very well and the grain did come into play making some putts a little slower and others fast. Was very fun to putt on. The sand was the best I have played in awhile, even though my play didn't show it.
I highly recommend this course when in the Vegas area, a really fun course, and is a course that needs to be played a few time to get used to its nuances.
Being a GK event made the day all that much better.
9 Likes.
Played on Monday, Memorial Day, to what was a perfect weather day. Tee'd off at 2:00 to what seemed like a uncrowded course, but the round still took 5 hours because of a very slow group two groups in front of us. The course was moving until hole 8 where the was three groups waiting to tee off. I haven't played "Big Rec" in years and I very much enjoyed myself. The conditions were decent.
Tees - The tees have been punched recently, but that did not effect anything.
Fairways - good lies the entire day, not in great shape but they are very playable.
Rough - rough is a mixed bag, from very thick and nasty to thin.
Bunkers - this sand with a hard bottom. Had a difficult time getting the ball to stop on the greens when hitting from the bunkers. The greens were fast and you need to be able to spin the ball out of the bunkers to have a good chance.
Greens - Rolled medium fast leaning towards the faster side. It is a heavily played course and not may people fix ball marks. It took me a few holes to get used to the speed. the rolled good most of the day and became bumpy towards the end of the day.

Overall I enjoyed my round as this course has a good variety of holes and some are just downright fun to play. Course is not overly difficult and good scores can be had here. For $29 to walk, I will be back soon.
9 Likes.
Played Oak Quarry for the first time on Sunday, March 10 as part of the GK match play. Had a blast with Kevin, Greg and Alex. With a chance of rain in the forecast we were hoping to get through 18 before the rain, which never materialized and was a chilly partly cloudy beautiful day. After reading recent reviews I went in with low expectations condition wise, but for layout and fun I had high expectations and those expectations were met. Good course management and smart play is needed on this course to score well.
Conditions:
Tees - Mostly good coverage, but many are not level.
Fairways - A mixed bag of conditions. From thin hard fairways to more lush fairways to some that had weeds growing. Near the greens the fairways were awesome, great coverage and very green. The entire course needs to look like this. In other words, very inconsistent.
Rough - Very nice shape. Lush and penalizing as rough should be.
Bunkers - Very poor shape! The fairway bunkers have little to no sand in them and there is really no need to rake them as no foot prints are made. In fact I had a tee ball hit a bunker on the fly and take a huge bounce up and out of the bunker. The greenside bunkers are slightly better, with a thin layer of sand with a hard underneath. Many sand shots from our group were bladed to the other side of the greens as our wedges would bounce off the hard bottom. I did see one trap that had a good layer of sand, so MAYBE they are in the process of adding sand. I will give them the benefit of the doubt and blame the rain on the bunker conditioning.
Greens - Didn't look great (many different shades of green), but for the most part they putted nicely. We did encounter a few bumps here and there, but not too terribly bad. They were firm and not many ball marks to be found.
Customer service was good and friendly, we did not see a beverage cart all day, not sure if one was out there.
Overall I really enjoyed myself and can't wait to go back so I can figure this place out.
11 Likes.
Played on 12/26. This was my first time playing Eagle Falls after years of wanting to get out here. With all the great reviews I have read and the 9.03 rating, the course had a lot to live up to and it did.
Check in was fast and easy. Not much here as far as club house or snack bar or bar, but it's not why I wanted to come here anyways. They paired us with a very nice couple from Canada and we tee'd off right on our 11:16 tee time. POP 4 hrs 15 min. We did not use the range, but it looked very nice.

Tee boxes - In very nice lush shape. All were level and had normal divot damage.

Fairways - Wow, were they ever perfect. No brown could be found. Ball always sat up nice. Fairways undulate, but not to severely. Some of the best I have ever played on.

Rough - Long, thick and sticky (Golf version of a Montrose song). The rough was always on hills and if you though you might get a lucky bounce out of it, forget it, not happening. The rough was dark green everywhere and would grab your club and ball. Framed the fairways nicely.

Bunkers - Was only in one and had nice sand, could use a little bit more, but i am not complaining. Saw one green side bunker with lots of new sand just waiting for a crew to spread it out. The bunkers are deep and

Greens - A little slow for my taste, but in great shape. they were medium speed but downhill putts and chips could get away from you. If you only read your putts from behind the ball, you will have trouble here. You need to look at them from a side angle also or it's going to be a long 3 putt day.

Overall I loved the course and can't wait to get back out, maybe for a springtime round. If the wind kicks up it is going to be a very tough course. There are some forced carries, like 150 yards over water, but with the breeze we had in our face that day it made the drive a little more nerve racking.
13 Likes.
Had a great time on Friday with nickesquire and two other golfers that joined us for the back nine. This course lived up to the hype and I was impressed. Using the free email voucher made it all that more special.
The course is tough, no doubt about that. With a slope of 130 from the whites, it gave me all I could handle. If you find an orange golf ball it's mine. There is a lot of them out there to be found.
Since Nick described the conditions perfectly, I will focus on a few other things. Customer service here is top notch, from the bag drop attendants to the cart girl, everybody everybody seems happy to serve you. One of the things that impressed me was that the starter is multi-lingual and I heard him speak a minimum of three languages. Very impressive.

They have a nice range which I used and it was mat only on this day because of the 2 inches of rain they received the day before, otherwise looks like a very nice grass range.

Don't know if I'll ever get to play here again, but I will always remember my round here and the fun that I had.
And yes the tee box for the blacks on hole 18 is something else and you need to take a walk up and look at the hole from there, or if you are not a wimp like me and play your tee shot from there.
7 Likes.
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