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What Gary said ..... ditto!

He summed it up well. Not much more I can add. Better than average conditions all around. Highly recommended.
Played CrossCreek on 3/9. Highly recommended!

Greens are fantastic right now. Quick and firm. It was windy, so they were very dry and hard to hold. The grain is very obvious on these greens, and putting and chipping can be very difficult depending on the grain direction.

HOORAY! A course where the fairways actually have grass!t While so many courses try to go hard and firm resulting in bare dirt being visible under some blades of grass, CrossCreek actually has no visible dirt - the ball actually sits on the grass. And guess was still hard and firm - plenty of roll.

As always, there are rough patches on this course. The rough can be hit or miss, tee boxes can be iffy in some of the heavy shade areas, and there is a rare bare spot on a few fairways. Don't let any of these keep you away though. It is a challenging layout that always plays tougher than I expect. Even though it is a 70 minute drive, I've got to get here more often.
Played Redhawk on 2/24/21. I had not been here since 2007, so I was excited to get back.

Conditions are iffy right now. In general, greens were nice. A couple of them did have major bare spots, but the holes were well away from that (except for one green where it was not avoidable. Several greens have different levels, and if you are on the wrong side of a ridge you will be 3 or 4 putting. Tee boxes and rough were good for winter.

Fairways - my usual rant. Bare dirt with a minimal layer of green/brown grass lying horizontally on top of the dirt. Maybe I need to start skipping the practice range mats and just hit my wedges off of the cement. As soon as I got on #1 fairway and saw what was coming, I tried to keep all iron shots > 100 yards as trying to hit a wedge off of these things was more risky than going for the island green.

Maybe I am just spoiled having San Clemente Muni as a home course. There if you hit the fairway, your ball actually sits on grass. You don't see the dirt underneath.

If you like your driver to roll, Redhawk definitely gives you that. My normal 250-260 drive would go an extra 20-30 yards here. However, even from the 6750 tees, I would say on half of the holes, a 280 drive is too much, as you will roll through fairways.

I really enjoyed the layout, it is a fun course. Conditions...meh. Greens are good enough that I would return if I was local, but being an hour away I'd lean to other options in the area.
Played LC Champions on 1/26/21. Played in a 4-some that wasn't particularly quick, group was on our tail the entire round, shocked to find out we finished in 3:45.

Course is in very good winter shape. Tees are near perfect. Greens very nice, smooth and quick. Rough is good.

Only minor complaint is very tight fairways, made it very tough to hit wedges. Grass coverage is good, it is just cut short and laying right down on the ground. Great for driver roll, awful for chipping.

Staff is great as always. Highly recommended.
Joined abbacat, Gary00 and his friend for a round here on 11/19. Thanks Wendy for letting us join you for your closest to the pin round! It was really fun. And yes, Wendy birdied that same CTP hole yesterday! She owns that Par 3.

Conditions are really nice. Greens and sand traps are excellent. Fairways and rough are better than I would expect give the "hidden valley" location - it cannot be easy to grow grass as sunlight has to be hard to come by in some areas. The back tees are at 6600 yards, but some holes are really tight and you had better be dead on with your tee shots. Lots of hidden shots and hidden troubles. Even if you don't play the back tees, go back and look at them as you get some great views of the holes and the area that you might miss from the forward tees.

Strangest thing...I thought I had played there, but a quick search prior to the round on my spreadsheet said I had not been there. But when I drove into the parking lot, I could have sworn I had been to that clubhouse. Played the course, and it all felt new to me. Got back home and did some more searching...and yes I had played there in the 2015 SCGA outing. Very strange that I did not remember the course, because it is a very memorable course. I'm chalking 2015 up to an old man memory lapse.

If you get a chance, definitely go, it is a really fun track.
Played on 11/09/20 with the Gurus - another fun day on the course.

First, my sympathies to the individual who was responsible for pin locations. I can only assume you had a horrible night before. Based on those pins, I am guessing your spouse yelled at you, your dog bit you, and perhaps your chili dinner kept you up all night. I hope the rest of your week is better.

For my first 10 years here in SoCal in the 90s, La Costa was one of my least favorite places to play. I must say they have made a remarkable turnaround, and it is now one of my favorites.

Greens were nice, smooth and quick, but not too quick except for the 5 or 6 pin locations right at the bottom of large slopes. I hope you weren't above the hole on those, I was. Greens were softer due to the weekend rains so it was easier to hold greens and attack pins, except for the 5 or 6 pin locations that were on the very edges of the greens. Don't short side yourself, I did.

Fairways and rough were in good fall shape.

Bunkers were a mix. Some were low on sand, and with the rains, compacted mud. If you got in a deep greenside bunker like that, it was disaster.

Outstanding practice facility, and the staff is extremely helpful. Highly recommended!
Out early at TC on 10/15. Played the Stonehouse/Oaks rotation in just under 3 hours as a threesome.

Course is in very nice condition. Greens are very good, quick and quite soft. Fairways and rough pretty good, every once in a while you'd find a bad area, but not too often. Tee boxes were very good.

For some reason they are completely ignoring the sand traps. I didn't get in any fortunately, but my playing partners just tried once and then took drops outside for the rest of the round. Really surprised the course doesn't at least have the crew rake the sand once a day, that would be the only negative for an otherwise really nice morning at the course.

I finally had a decent score on the Stonehouse 9. I still think that is my least favorite 9 holes in SoCal. I think the tee shot on #1 just immediately puts me in a bad mental state. It requires a giant slinging duck hook. I fade the ball. Today, I decided to just tee off with a 3w on this Par 5. Hit a nice stinger, maybe 10-20 feet inside the left tree line. Stays right on that line down the left edge, and I think I have finally hit a good shot on #1. Walk down the left edge of the fairway....nothing. Center of the fairway...nothing. My playing partners yell that there is a Titleist just short of the right bunker. That's me....a straight ball off the tee down the left edge ends up nearly in the bunker right of the fairway. I hate that tee shot.

Except for the #1 Stonehouse tee shot.....HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!
Out early on 9/25 at Talega.

The good.....the greens are in good shape, smooth, medium speed. The fairways are better than I have seen them here in a long time.

The bad.....the rough is very odd. Super plush in spots, then 20 yards of bare dirt.

The ugly....the fringe is downright pathetic on several greens. But the green is fine? I don't know what can happen right on the green/fringe border, but something freaky is going on.

The beyond ugly....WTF is going on with the tee boxes? I hope they are in the "destroy them before the rebuild" phase, because 75% of the tee boxes are just awful. My playing partners said it was reseeding time, I sure hope so, but I didn't see any maintenance working on them.

One of my favorite layouts, but man I hope this is the storm before the calm. Still, they were pretty well packed with players. Glad I was using one of my player's card discount rounds because if I had paid the $105 rack rate, I would be furious.

I cannot recommend at this time, unless at a Muni rate.
Played MSQ Players on 9/9.

Greens are soft and smooth except for a unrepaired ball mark here and there. Medium to slow speed. Pretty good greens for a low price muni.

Fairways and rough were in good shape, with a bad patch here and there.

I put some pretty bad scores onto the tee boxes. My guess is they don't move the tee markers much now, as the tee boxes away from the markers looked fine. But at the markers, it was really beaten up. Just move the tee markers.

I think this layout is one of the best low price publics out there. Just a fun track to play, with no bad holes, usually in very playable condition. Hope I can get back out before it goes away. Too bad.
Played LC Legends on 8/31/20. Full 18 is back open again. Course is in very good condition, especially given the late summer heat we have had.

Tee boxes were just about perfect. Fairways were mostly very good, once in a while there is a bad patch, but rare. Greens are very good, firm and quick. There are a couple of greens on legends that always seem to be battling something, and I did have a couple of patches of rogue grass on a green affecting the putt. Rough is good, some thick stuff just off of fairways. As always, the practice facilities are top notch, and the staff is great.

Highly recommended.
Thanks to some recent reviews trending upward, I decided to head Summerly for the first time in about 8 years. Quick Summary - still rough in spots, but for August in Lake Elsinore, Summerly was in much better shape than I expected. Not great condition by any means, but playable with some tolerance. A really fun layout, and conditions are good enough to make me want to come back.

Tees were great, no issues there.

Greens are surprisingly green and soft. Very soft. Two big issues with the greens - first being an ungoldy amount of ball marks. I've seen places with a lot of ball marks before, but Summerly wins. Every green looks like a green on a driving range at 100 yards. Second issue is there are competing grasses on the greens, and that makes speed and line vary. That being said, the grass is green and growing well for August. It is being kept long for health reasons, so they roll generally slow. All in all, greens are acceptable, and I think come winter they could be really nice.

Fairways were generally really good. 95% of the coverage is excellent, but there are still some spots that just can't seem to get grass.

Rough - avoid. Bring a beater club, it is like Palm Springs - miss the fairway and you get rocks.

Sand - fairway bunkers are hard packed - easy to hit out of. Greenside bunkers are better. no complaints about the sand for COVID time.

Glad I made the drive out, and nice to see Summerly coming back to life.
Played IH-Babe on 8/11. Saw 24HrGolf's license plate in the lot, but he must have gone off earlier than my 6:20 tee time.

Last time I was at Babe was 1999. That was my first time there, and man was that the wrong course to have my last known case of duck hooks. That 95 was my highest score (by 7 shots) in my 23 years of spreadsheet tracking. With a $49 deal on GN, I decided it was finally time to go get beaten up by Babe again.

Holy cow this place is tight. There are very few places that you can miss a fairway and survive. Greens are wacky at times. A few greens are multi-teared. A few greens are long thin needles.

Condition wise, things are all pretty good. Everything could be a little better, but in all I was please with the conditions. The tee boxes are the weak spot, beaten up in spots, and not always level. Maybe I was just upset that all the blue tees seemed to be pushed to the left side of the box, cutting off even more room for my fade.

Watch out for the gopher on #14 green. Dude was making a mess, and he would peek up out the hole to laugh at you when you putted. The ground crew were getting ready to make their attack when we passed though, so little gopher may be long gone by now. He had dug up 3 or 4 good holes within 20 feet of the pin. The ladies playing behind us didn't mind, as 2 of them nearly aced that one.

In all, I enjoyed playing Babe much more than my previous effort. My old man game fared better by 18 shots. It helps to not have the duck hooks.
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