Played here Sunday, 9/16 at 1:50 using the free round they emailed me. Valet, check-in, cart attendants and on-course pe... » More

Played here Sunday, 9/16 at 1:50 using the free round they emailed me. Valet, check-in, cart attendants and on-course personnel all very friendly and efficient. They paired me with a single from Georgia, and a twosome, one of which was a local and his friend from Chicago. All nice guys and fun to play with. We played the blue tees. Started right on time and POP was decent, right around 4:30 total. Front was good but on the back the group directly in front of us was a little slow, but there's plenty of gorgeous scenery to admire while waiting to hit shots out here. I chose the 1:50 time because I knew it would find me playing the back nine as the sun set, and the whole course looked amazing in that late afternoon sunlight. It was warm and clear with a little haze/cloud cover concealing parts of Catalina and the horizon line, but otherwise a beautiful day.

Conditions are very good. Greens are smooth, semi-firm and very healthy. Green speeds are fast; very fast if downhill at all. The only putts you could really hit hard were putts up a severe slope. Everything else is a touch putt. Fairways were good, a few discolorations here and there, but overall very nice to play from. The rough was a slight step down from the fairways with occasional clumps and dead spots between the clumps. Otherwise lush grass and often sticky. I didn't get much roll on the fairways or the rough, which makes the 6,200 yard blues play long, especially when the narrowness often makes "less than driver" the best play off the tee. Bunkers were good but would be fantastic with just a little more sand. Tee boxes were good. Overall, nothing is immaculate right now but everything is very solid and enjoyable to play.

This was my second time here. The knocks on the layout is that it's repetitive (back and forth) and very narrow in spots. I feel that's true for the first seven holes, but the rest is pretty darn good. I think the entire back nine is a lot of fun and the views are hard to beat. I want to play the tips sometime but I'd have to hit the ball much better than I did yesterday. This course will beat you up if you're not playing well, and I'm not talking only about the abundant ESA. I only lost two balls but the slopes on and around the greens can be very difficult.

I created a Flickr photo album of 55 photos that can be viewed here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsmsAp76z
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Played Monday, 9/17, about 10:30, as a nice recovery round with John_T.

Just a week or so out of tee to green (... » More

Played Monday, 9/17, about 10:30, as a nice recovery round with John_T.

Just a week or so out of tee to green (including rough) reseeding, course is cart path only, so be prepared to wait and walk. Mountain is in reseeding now so Palm is the only course going for another week or so.

Conditions were very good. Rye has took very well with a few areas where the seedlings are still coming through. At least 80% lush grass, a bit long for now, but very playable. Greens slightly longer than fairway. Greens were running a bit slower than usual and a few had some spots of very thin areas.

Outside of the all the walking (of course I hit to the opposite side of the cart path EVERY TIME), I had a great time. Paired up with some guys visiting from Chicago, paid $35 with OB card. Worth it.
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Had an opportunity to play this exclusive private course Saturday afternoon thanks to fellow GKer Ben. Arrived about an ... » More

Had an opportunity to play this exclusive private course Saturday afternoon thanks to fellow GKer Ben. Arrived about an hour ahead of 1 pm tee time to take advantage of practice facilities. The driving range was as expected from a facility of this stature, grass only with balls stacked in pyramids at every stall. Two practice putting greens surrounded by beautiful landscaping and flowers accenting the meticulous masonry.
The tee boxes were very nice, plenty of coverage, didn't have a single uneven stance the entire round on the tee box. 8.5/10
Fairways had very nice coverage throughout. There were areas where the grass was a little browned, but very playable. I didn't have a thin or unfavorable lie in the fairway the entire round, though I played terrible and only hit 7-9 of them. 8.5/10
As badly as I played on this day, I only found 2 bunkers. They weren't fantastic, but they weren't bad either. 7/10
The greens were very speedy! I didn't know before hand what the stimp was, but if I had to guess, I would put that number above an 11, but lower than a 12, seriously lol. Took me the majority of the round to adjust. Also a bit firm in the way that well struck shots would stay on the green with a substantive amount of back spin and landing in the proper spots. Ben and I had several shots that hit the green from distances and in places we thought would leave us with a decent putt, only to find we would be chipping just off the green for our next shot. The one thing I was quite surprised about, was the number of unrepaired divots. 9.5/10
Pace of play was very nice, don't remember exactly, but I believe our round was under 4 hours! Even as we waited on several holes until the twosome in front of us left after playing 9 holes.
Overall a great experience. All staff I encountered were helpful and welcoming. The members I happened to interact with were friendly and seemingly happy to have us. I played terrible, so the round itself wasn't great, but I enjoyed myself thoroughly! Highly recommended, if the opportunity presents itself.
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Played on Friday, 9/14, around noon or so, as part of a 3 group Bachelor Party. I really do have a crush on this course.... » More

Played on Friday, 9/14, around noon or so, as part of a 3 group Bachelor Party. I really do have a crush on this course. I will always play it when offered (extra: a few years ago, Siena/Arroyo held a contest during UNLV basketball games and I would only enter when Arroyo was the prize). It has never disappointed me. Fun layout with a mix of risk/reward holes. I think it's fair enough for a high handicap (me) and can still challenge better golfers. Again, staff was great. Carts were ready and set with the rentals some of the guys used. Inside grill had us all fed and ready to go before our tee time. Only exception, the STARTER. Is this job only reserved for grumpy guys? We were all set in our carts when he started with the let's go, let's go, then was visibly angry when we asked for a group pic.

Conditions are incredible. Tee boxes level, but some damage on the par 3s and shorter par 4s. Fairways were really good, lush, plenty of coverage with a few brown/thin areas. Rough was minimum, about a ball or so high, just enough to cause some issues. Greens were good, very smooth, but a little on the slow side of medium speed. Can't say anything about the bunkers, we played a scramble and didn't need to hit out of one (unlike some other groups).

I was able to speak with the GM before we teed. They are delaying their reseeding until October (Phoenix/Palm Springs style) and may come out without Cart Path Only. Seemed like a good guy and I wished I could speak to him more and without the Bachelor Party affects.

I always recommend this course when asked for ideas. I love the variety and it's absolutely a blast to play. The par 3s are all different length, with some elevation changes or guarded greens. Short and long par 4s, wide and tight fairways. The par 5s offer at least 2 chances for medium hitters to go for it. Always a good time.
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Played 9-16-18. Course had reopened the previous Monday so was expecting some signs of healing. Did not see any indicati... » More

Played 9-16-18. Course had reopened the previous Monday so was expecting some signs of healing. Did not see any indication of punching. May have healed that quickly but seemed odd. The bunkers were hard as concrete and the greens were quick but not as fast as normal. Some tee boxes were trashed. Tee boxes on the first par 3 on the back had been moved back so instead of a 150 yard shot it was instead 182. The tee stones were set right in front of a hill so you had to chop down to hit the ball without hitting the ground first. The forward tees had moved from a 75 yard shot to 172! The first par 3 over the canyon had all 4 tee stones on what would be the blue tees. At least it is a reasonable distance but quite a mind tweak when you are expecting 75 yards and find yourself facing 112. The rough was US open length so I lost a ball in the rough just a few yards off the fairway. Love the layout and will continue to play here but may wait till winter to see if more improvements are made to the course or if the focus these days is on building more homes!
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Played on Friday, 9/14, early morning as part of a 3 group Bachelor Party outing. Staff was incredible, outside of the s... » More

Played on Friday, 9/14, early morning as part of a 3 group Bachelor Party outing. Staff was incredible, outside of the starter, who said if we didn't get to the tee we would not be playing at all. Tee'd off on time, finished exactly at 4 hours. Someone was a bit cranky. Outside of that guy, everyone else was fantastic. I left my range finder stuck on the cart and they delivered it to their sister course, Arroyo at Red Rock, prior to us teeing off. Great F&B staff the whole weekend, outside cart guys were helpful.

Conditions were not so great:
Tee boxes: Fine, level, some divot damage but very playable
Greens: Best part of the course. Fantastic shape. Smooth, medium pace.
Bunkers: Decent, some heavy sand which may have been caused by the morning watering
Fairways and Rough: 50% coverage at best, hard pan, thin, muddy. Just horrible.

I later found out Siena uses Rye grass year round, and Rye is very susceptible to fungus (it sounded believable so I bought in). With that, they have chopped and tore up lots of grass and began new seeding.

Just can't recommend this course and can't give a timeline when it's in playing shape.
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Played a quick local round this weekend and went back to the old stomping grounds of Westchester. It's always a reliable... » More

Played a quick local round this weekend and went back to the old stomping grounds of Westchester. It's always a reliable round of golf and great short game practice, but do want to point out that the greens were just punched and every green is half-sanded, half green. It sure makes approach shots more daunting when you're trying to work with half a green, but that's also pretty fun.

The other fun part is when you do land in the sandy, bumpy part, then have to gauge speed when it gets to the actually quite fast grass portion of the greens. There are bumps just about everywhere but if you do have a clean line, really need to watch that speed.

Other than that, conditions are what you almost always expect from Westchester. Fairways have good coverage for the amount of traffic this place gets, and while you won't ever mistake it for Augusta, you'll rarely find a tragically bad lie. But yes, thin does exist out there. Rough is just a bit longer cut and not tough to hit from.

Tee boxes are beat up pretty good which is what you'd expect from a par 64 course that features a ton of par 3s throughout. Sand is very good quality which is always surprising but also always applauded. Water stations in some key areas, and very easy and simple check-in and out to the first tee. Keep expectations in check and you'll usually have a good time at Westchester unless you're waiting on every hole. Luckily did not have to do that.
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6:00am tee time on Monday. Arrived at 5:30am - what a zoo ! People EVERYWHERE ! Waited a few minutes after they o... » More

6:00am tee time on Monday. Arrived at 5:30am - what a zoo ! People EVERYWHERE ! Waited a few minutes after they opened the door to the Pro Shop, then waited to check in. It was 5:57 before we finally paid and I asked if they were running late. I was told, no they're on time ???? So asked "Does that mean we can walk to the tee and hit off? " No response. I think the guy got the message because he then called our name a few minutes later as 3rd off, so we actually only teed off about 15 minutes late.

The greens were the best part of the course. Rolled well, very soft and receptive, but too slow for my taste. Fairways were not good. Lots of areas which were very thin/sparse. Bunkers were very wet, but playable.

Despite all the people, who actually began teeing off at 5:30, we finished in under 4 hours, which surprised me. Not good for a 6am tee time, but still better than I expected. And for $16.50 hard to complain too much
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Played this AM before a huge tournament. Played with a member and we finished in 2.5 H. Course is in very nice shape at ... » More

Played this AM before a huge tournament. Played with a member and we finished in 2.5 H. Course is in very nice shape at the moment. Things were a little wet when we started, but once the sun came up, fairways and greens got very fast. Tee boxes were all clean and level. Fairways are very playable. Bunkers were all clean and had been raked and no complaints. Greens (after being cut) played very nice (not overly fast) but many of them still had noticeable (though repaired) ball marks (some did effect putting). Not much rough, but there is a lot of desert or as they call it "environmental area", which cannot be entered, should you hit into it. Customer service excellent at all levels. Very good design, with a good variety of holes. A very nice course (IMO) that one should play at least once?
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Played here 9/16, 8am shotgun scramble, so predictably slow. First time here... I had a good time. The layout is a bit... » More

Played here 9/16, 8am shotgun scramble, so predictably slow. First time here... I had a good time. The layout is a bit tricky, but the holes were mostly fair. There were quite a few holes with blind tee shots, and the GPS assists you in informing you when the group in front is clear. I had to drive up 5 or 6 times to see the hole layout. Hole 18 is a very tough driving hole, with a tough approach, and less than perfect tee shot is either wet or turns it into a 3 shot par 4. Course in good public course shape, but has it's share of ball marks and unfilled divots. GK says they punched 3 1/2 weeks prior, and I couldn't tell. They were running about a 10 and mostly true. I will be returning, since part of the tournament gift bags include a free round at Turkey Creek. So I imagine playing my own ball and seeing the course for a second time may change some of my thoughts. But I had a fun time.
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Played here 9/2, 7:10 tee time. Made time as a single and paired with a 2some. Had a great time. Nice warm day. Casua... » More

Played here 9/2, 7:10 tee time. Made time as a single and paired with a 2some. Had a great time. Nice warm day. Casual 4hr pace. Seemed like we had the course to ourselves. course in great shape. Greens running about a 10. Cheaper rate for staying at the Village Lodge. I would play here any chance I get.
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Played twilight out there today, 9/16. The greens were as good as I’ve seen them out here in a long time. Fairways alway... » More

Played twilight out there today, 9/16. The greens were as good as I’ve seen them out here in a long time. Fairways always have good coverage, and I don’t mind the kikuya. Weather always seems good out here with a light breeze.
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